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[–] FishFace@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Cops behave fairly well in countries where they receive any training. Flight attendants do, too.

Some back of the envelope maths suggests that there's an approximately 10% chance of a given flight attendant being on a flight which is evacuated (based on US data, which is what I could find, where there are about 33 evacuations per year, 9.8 million scheduled passenger flights per year, and where flight attendants work about 64 flights a month (according to a random quora post claiming to be by a flight attendant) and an arbitrary figure of 40 years working.

You might not live your life around freak accidents, but people who design industry safety standards do, and do so for a reason: because when you work in it, the probability of it affecting you goes from "inconsequential" to "significant". If there's no rule against turning up drunk to a safety-critical role, or no punishment for breaking it, then eventually someone will die because the flight attendant on duty couldn't remember how to instruct people properly.

Air travel is safe because aviation has a safety culture, and it has that safety culture because danger in the air is inherently more dangerous than danger elsewhere. You can't just coast to a stop when there's a problem on an aeroplane.

[–] Laser@feddit.org 7 points 6 days ago

A lot of people have no idea about aviation safety, it shows in these kind of threads. I worked in aviation for about 5 years, so I at least have an idea, though I'm far from an expert (about a year as a technical officer in the German Air Force, more of a management role but you still get the basic safety courses like Maintenance Resource Management training, four years of procurement for a maintenance IT system), and how some people approach the subject stumps me. Flying isn't the safest mean of travel because of its nature, but rather because of rigid rules at every step of the process that are enforced by supervisors and inspectors.

Literally heard this phrase Sunday: Accidents don't happen – they're caused.