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Is there still any hope for privacy phones? 2025 and beyond (lemmy.ml)

submitted 5 days ago by ComradePedro@lemmy.ml to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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Google has been trying to make Android proprietary for a few years now, and that's not news, as many AOSP default apps have been abandoned over time in favor of proprietary Google ones. This was never a huge problem for me, as you can still use those apps without network access or use open source alternatives like Fossify on a custom ROM.

However, the situation is quickly getting worse, now that Google is actively trying to prevent the development of custom ROMs and taking a page from Apple's book by forcing developers to beg them for permission to release apps on the Android platform, even outside of the Play Store - giving Google full control.

Is there still any hope left for privacy respecting Android ROMs? What do you think will happen next? And what would be your suggestions for those looking for a phone in 2025?

If you have a different perspective on the situation, also please comment below!

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[–] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The open source thing is largely a myth, though. AOSP is what's open source. The version of Android on Pixel phones and Nexus before them was forked from that and bundles a lot of closed source stuff, like Google Play Services, Gmail, and more. But it's close enough to AOSP that devs can target it and it should run on most/all Android forks.

So then Samsung and others take AOSP and they fork it and make their own OS that is based on Android. They are required per licensing to use Android branding if they want Play Store access. There are other rules, like Chrome and/or Google has to be on the main launcher page, Play Services has to be included... if they don't play by the rules, they can still fork Android, they just can't use the name Android... like Fire OS and Switch OS. (It's unclear if modern Switches use any Android code. Before they were released they were rumored to have forked Android. Switches absolutely do not run Android apps, but the OS borrows several cues from Android design language.)

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The open source thing is largely a myth, though. AOSP is what's open source.

You say it's a myth, then say it's not a myth. Which one is it? Is it open source or not?

[–] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

AOSP and production versions of Android (what's on the Pixel) are not the same thing.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 0 points 4 days ago

Yes, that's what I've been trying to tell you.