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[–] Mika@sopuli.xyz 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I can almost guarantee that hundred billion params LLMs are not trained on that, and are trained on the whole web scraped to the furthest extent.

The only sane and ethical solution going forward is to force to opensource all LLMs. Use the datasets generated by humanity - give back to humanity.

[–] Mika@sopuli.xyz -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Besides, the article is about image gen AI, not LLMs.

[–] onslaught545@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

What do you think the letters LLM stand for, pal?

[–] null@lemmy.nullspace.lol 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] onslaught545@lemmy.zip -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, it is. LLMs do more than just text generation.

[–] Mika@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Article directly complains about AI artwork. You know what LLM even means?

[–] onslaught545@lemmy.zip -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, I do. I also know that multimodal LLMs are what generate AI artwork.

[–] Mika@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago

Then you should provably know that image gen existed long before MLLMs and was already a menace to artists back then.

And that MLLM is generally a layered combo of lots of preexisting tools, where LLM is used as a medium that allows to attach OCR inputs and give more accurate instructions to image gen AI part.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world -4 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The only sane and ethical solution going forward is to force to opensource all LLMs.

Jesus fucking christ. There are SO GODDAMN MANY open source LLMs, even from fucking scumbags like facebook. I get that there's subtleties to the argument on the ProAI vs AntiAI side, but you guys just screech and scream.

https://github.com/eugeneyan/open-llms

[–] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 11 hours ago

there are barely any. I can't name a single one offhand. Open weights means absolutely nothing about the actual source of those weights.

[–] 6nk06@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

Where are the sources? All I see is binary files.

[–] Mika@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 days ago

even meta

Lol, ofc meta, they have the biggest bigdata out there, full of private data.

Most of the opensources are recompilations of existing opensource LLMs.

And the page you've listed is <10b mostly, bar LLMs with huge financing, and generally either copropate or Chinese behind them.