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[–] Sal@mander.xyz 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why not RGBW with some interesting wavelength response of the white subpixel?

Hmm, I'm not really sure. A monochrome pixel would be much more sensitive, but without a neutral density filter it might saturate when the RGB pixels are well-exposed. With a neutral density filter I think it could resolve better the variation of light intensities of very small features.

Same with LCDs. It wouldn’t take much change in the manufacturing process much to create a WWW or YWB 1080p LCD that has less or no color but passes way more light, allowing less backlight or even a reflective mode, while still being driven with conventional electronics

So, would the WWW be a monochrome LCD? Wouldn't these be similar to the ones sometimes used in small electronic displays like this one:

I am not sure of what the YWB would do.

These could be used in public transport signage etc. In some cases, a monochrome LCD with RGB backlight could also come in handy.

I am also interested in the use of the 'E-Ink' displays for public signage in well-illuminated places. I found a few examples online:

Also not really related but it infuriates me that Samsung turned the Bayer filter 45°, halved the pixel count and patented it as an OLED pattern so nobody can make similar displays.

I am not familiar with this... I looked it up and I think it is this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PenTile_matrix_family

I'll look into it. Interesting!

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Large e-inks are unfortunately still quite expensive.

Yes, a WWW display is monochrome, tripling its light throughput. A YWB display is capable of color on the blue-yellow axis (although the color cannot be both bright and saturated) and has double the light throughput of RGB. What you're showing is a passive STN display, I'm after an active matrix (TFT or IPS). To save on driver development, there will still be subpixels, just without color – exactly the same as the normal RGB model except with clear gel instead of RGB for the color mask. Thanks to subpixel antialiasing that most OSs do by default, the extra horizontal resolution will not be wasted, at least with text.

BTW YWB's color gamut looks like this:
YWB color gamut

This might seem awful but remember that this is an extension of the YB color gamut (where the white component is 0) towards the top right (added white of course, which doubles the brightness of monochrome text):
YB color gamut

If the factory can satisfy this, you can use any two colors (recommended saturated ones that add up to white):

reddish-white-cyanish gamut

As for the OLED, I mean this pattern:

Maybe this one is not Samsung's patent but either way, they sought to ban their patented pixel patterns' import to the US, effectively banning all but large-volume shipments of OLEDs (because the customs can't check for pixel patterns whenever a US repair shop orders a spare).

[–] Sal@mander.xyz 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Some of these terms I am not yet familiar with, so I will need to do some reading. I'll save this comment and come back during the week. It seems like you are very knowledgeable about display technologies! Very cool

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

In short: (S)TN is almost always monochrome and in a calculator or Game Boy: just glass, electrodes and liquid crystal. It's cheap and customizable but it doesn't scale to high resolutions well and the contrast is poor. TFT (and the later IPS) is almost always color and uses a thin film transistor on each subpixel to hold its state between updates, simplifying driving while maintaining contrast at high resolutions.