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Though I'm not a big fan of centralization, I use cloudflare. Their DDoS protection is unmatched, they have scraping protection, and just in case they decide to screw their users over, switching to another service is trivial.
@lena@gregtech.eu Have you been in need of DDoS protection and which alternatives did you try if they're the best?
I don't see why they would screw their users over if their users basically enable them to track visitors across the internet for free.
They're all in the same boat. If they're free, you're the product.
Akamai and Cloudfront are their biggest competitors, and you're not getting anywhere near the features out of them.
Can't do without it, can't afford to pay for it. Hell, if you can afford to pay for it, you're likely still the product.
And, yes, you do need it to avoid drowning in bullshit network traffic. The last few personal projects I put up went immediately through the free bandwidth on bot/scraper/AI traffic.
Maybe your ISP allows you to host and gives you ipv4, or you can afford a decent VPS, but that's not everyone.
I can host some bullshit stuff out of my house with their tunnel instead of paying for a seedbox, worth it imo, not hosting anything private.
The next step up to replicate it completely would be to buy vm with full control, run anubis on it, wireguard it back to my house to my hosted gear. I'm still getting requests out the ass at the seedbox, no high availability, no caching, paying twice for my traffic.
or, I can run set up an account, run a single tunnel to a pi in my basement and call it a day.
I don’t know what cloud flare is and at this point im afraid to ask
Basically they work as a bouncer in front of your website and stop all the undesirables getting in. I.e. AI scrapers. Also if somebody decides they want to try and hack you or otherwise cause problems the bouncer beats them up and you never have to hear about it.
If you use a VPN the bouncer is very suspicious of you and you have to jump through all sorts of hoops to get in, which is why some people don't like websites using it. Unfortunately there isn't really a solution since there are a lot of illegitimate uses for having a VPN connection as well, so you have to be suspicious of them.
Ah, thanks, I was wondering this too. What shady stuff are they up to?
Well mostly it's AI scrapers at the moment (I wouldn't mind as much if they just chilled out, but it's like hundreds of connection attempts per second).
The other thing is DDoS which I don't really have to deal with, but it's nice to have just in case.
No I mean what shady stuff are Cloudflare up to?
You use it as reverse proxy, to not expose your hosting servers (e.g. websites, Lemmy instances or what not) directly to the Internet. The idea is that they take care of a lot of security concerns for you, which can otherwise be very demanding if you are self hosting
I can stop drinking whenever I want.
If switching is trivial, why not do it now?
Is it? Try switching and see how often you are DDoSed.