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Reverse brain drain: What’s drawing Chinese researchers back from the US?
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Because it's OK to ban Nazism, and punish people who spread Nazism because Nazism is against our values.
But somehow it's not OK to ban extreme religion for the exact same reasons.
We need to get over the special pleading for religion. Religious extremism is just as harmful, probably even more than any other type of extreme ideology.
There's a reason MAGA is called a cult, and that's because they are in denial of reality, and blindly believe harmful dogma. Just like extreme religion.
In principle the acts of MAGA are also illegal in many ways in USA, but the law was never really upheld against them, and especially their leader. Once upon a time, treason of that kind would be illegal.
And in much the same way, religious cults value their own rules more than the rules that are decided by society.
Freedom of religion is considered a human right, but freedom FROM religion should be an at least equal right, especially for children.
Nazism had roots in extreme religion to persecute the Jews to the point of outright exterminate them, and now MAGA too has roots in extreme religion, and has many of the bad signs Nazism had in Germany.
I can understand why China doesn't want that shit.
Like Israel is doing in Gaza?
Obviously not, since Israel is doing the exact same the Nazis were, which is an actual genocide.
I have not heard that China is killing off Uighur's.
But Israel is fighting against an extremist and verifiably dangerous religious sect (Hamas). Surely that is righteous given your above comments?
And I'll just leave this here. It's well cited so follow sources if you like.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Uyghurs_in_China
They are shooting toddlers in the head, you Nazi.
Fascist.
Yes, you are indeed.
"I know you are but what am I?"
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With regard to Israel/Palestine, both sides are infested with religious dogma, but Israel is an invader of Palestine. Israel should have no say at all on what goes on in Palestine.
You are making a slippery slope argument.
What I said was the religion shouldn't be allowed "special" pleading. Not that they can't have rights.
So perhaps I misunderstood when you said they don't have a right to exist (e.g. can be banned)?
If a extreme religion is against what we stand for as a society, why then is it more wrong to ban a religion than to ban Nazism?
I absolutely stand by my claim that religion should not have special pleading.
Obviously Islam in Palestine is not against the values of Palestine. Palestine is not for Israel to decide over and control.
If in society it is illegal to discriminate against women, religion should not be a free card to discriminate against women.
The religion needs to change to respect humanitarian values, society should not respect religious practices that don't.
Gotcha - free speech is at the pleasure of the state then?
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And not even being able to answer the question. 🤣 🤣 🤣
Free speech is not absolute, and I live in probably the only country in the world that actually tried that!
Free speech ends for instance when it encourages crimes or oppress minorities, or is spreading harmful lies Religions often do all 3.
So it's at the pleasure of the state then?
I already answered your question, free speech is regulated everywhere, it's a moronic question, but I refuse to accept your rhetoric, as it has nothing to do with pleasure, that's a loaded question.
I answered your question, but you never answered mine!
Again: If an extreme religion is against what we stand for as a society, why then is it more wrong to ban a religion than to ban Nazism?
I mean - you have completely agreed with me. You just like to phrase it in a way that is more weasel-wordy.
Let me piss you off by answering your question with yet another question - who is determining what is a "religion that is against what we stand for as a society". And let me remind you who the current US president is.
Man how dense are you? I used USA together with Nazism as examples of how religion is harmful.
Iran is running a patriarchy, that's their decision. But the way USA is turning is against everything USA stood for for half a century, and the decline of American values to an authoritarian regime that persecute minorities, completely against the idea of freedom that used to be important for Americans, and it is all driven by religion.