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[–] M137@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Then don't do that thing, leave it where it can cleaned up by someone you paid to clean it up or only bring things where the trash you leave behind is environmentally friendly and can degrade naturally. There is absolutely no valid reason you can give for this. You're literally excusing hurting nature because someone decided to do something that they couldn't handle, how does that make sense?

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world -4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I'm not excusing a single thing, only stating a fact.

Lemmy sometimes makes me feel like I'm surrounded by small children or autists. My 12-yo daughter is autistic and even she has more social discernment than you fuckers.

"I don't like your statement of fact! And I'm taking that statement to mean you love that fact! Fuck you!"

Saw a commenter get downvoted to hell for clearly stating someone else's take on a thing. They made it clear they were explaining someone else's stance.

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[–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

If you like facts then you should know that “Autist” Is a rather controversial term in the autistic community, with many finding it dehumanising, and with a significant proportion of those who use it themselves doing so to “reclaim” it in an n-word-like “it’s okay when i say it, but not when you say it” way.

And if you really do have an autistic daughter, then you might want to do some internal reflection on why you think being “surrounded by […] autists” Is negative enough to use as an insult. Those kinds of attitudes can have negative impacts on children and can lead to internalised ableism. And if it’s not the kind of attitude you would show around her, then it’s worth asking yourself why not.

[–] Frigidlollipop@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I dont think the debate is over whether you have to leave the garbage to do this hike; I think the argument is that because you HAVE to do that, this expedition should either be closed or more highly regulated. The amount of trash and bodies will just slowly accumulate, and it's weird in today's world of high tech gear to even claim summiting as a badge of honor. Sure it's cool... but you have nothing on the folks that did it with limited knowledge and questionable gear in the early days.