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The new Tron: Ares got me thinking just how common Hollywood sex offender blockbuster stars are, compared to women in leading roles. Then I realized the same is true for directors, producers and whatnot. Then I realized that's probably true as well for all official or otherwise roles of responsibility in companies, churches, any sort of union and everything else.

It's insane our society looks like that.

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[–] village604@adultswim.fan 12 points 4 days ago (2 children)

None of those links do anything to discredit the claim, though.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That's if you automatically assume the claim is true without evidence, though. Which wasn't the original commenter's position. The original position was whether you could prove OPs titular claim with data.

Thus far? The answer seems to be "Nope."

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That's because thus far no one has provided any data that's relevant to either side of the argument.

Aggregated lists of the "best" blockbusters with women leads are irrelevant to the discussion.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Then why take it as given that the claim needs to be proven false, rather than the other way around? Your mind seems to be made up before any reliable proof has even been presented.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I did no such thing. That's you extrapolating incorrectly.

Literally all I said was that the provided information isn't relevant to the discussion.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

No, you said it doesn't prove that the claim is false. Which isn't even what they did. They expressed doubt and provided links supporting their doubt.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And my point was that their links didn't support their doubt.

Pointing out someone's argument is flawed doesn't mean you support the other side of the argument.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Did it not? It showed, at the very least to them, that there were a large number of female led blockbusters. To have more sexual predators in lead roles than that would take quite a significant amount. Certainly leads to doubt in my mind.

Why, in your opinion, is their opinion invalid because of this?

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 4 points 4 days ago

Again, a "best of" list of 20 some odd movies spanning many years based on the author's opinion doesn't support the doubt they were expressing because it doesn't provide enough information.

[–] Beacon@fedia.io 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Of course it does. The links show there's a huge number of blockbusters with women leads. So the onus is on the person making the original claim for it to be believed

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

But a high number of blockbusters with female leads still doesn't contradict the claim.

The claim wasn't that there aren't any blockbusters with female leads, it was that there are more with men who are also sexual predators.

And those links don't even show that there's a high number of blockbusters with female leads. They're just an aggregated list of the best profitable movies with female leads. You need to have the grand total of blockbusters, and the total number of blockbusters with female leads to draw that conclusion.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

So youre saying it doesn't prove anything, and thus OPs original claim is yet to be proven false. Or more importantly, proven true.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yes, I'm saying the data provided has no relevance to the discussion one way or the other.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world -5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You mostly seem to be saying that OPs claim is absolute truth until proven otherwise. Which is a wild stance to take when, thus far, no proof has been given.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Please provide a quote of me making a statement regarding the validity of either side of the claim.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world -2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

But a high number of blockbusters with female leads still doesn’t contradict the claim.

Why do they need to contradict a claim you purport not to support?

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I answered that in the comment you quoted.

You need to learn that criticizing the validity someone's argument isn't support for the other side.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world -2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You need to learn to figure out what an argument is after you read a comment. They never purported to prove that OPs assertion was absolutely false, as you claim, it was to express doubt that it was real.

Your argument was as valid as the argument you imagined they had was.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 4 points 4 days ago

You need to learn what an argument is.

Saying you doubt a claim and providing evidence for your doubts is an argument against the validity of the claim.

My saying that the evidence you provided doesn't support your doubt is a valid criticism and doesn't mean I support the claim you're doubting.