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Senate Democrats rejected for the 10th time Thursday a stopgap spending bill that would reopen the government, insisting they won’t back away from demands that Congress take up health care benefits.

The vote failed Thursday morning on a 51-45 vote, well short of the 60 needed to advance with the Senate’s filibuster rules.

The repetition of votes on the funding bill has become a daily drumbeat in Congress, underscoring how intractable the situation has become. It has been at times the only item on the agenda for the Senate floor, while House Republicans have left Washington altogether. The standoff has lasted over two weeks, leaving hundreds of thousands of federal workers furloughed, even more without a guaranteed payday and Congress essentially paralyzed.

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[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 145 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The GOP is doing a great job of building the opposition campaign slogan: "The GOP kept the government shut down for X days for the sole purpose of denying Americans access to healthcare."

[–] the_q@lemmy.zip 91 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Except the people that need to hear that truth won't believe it.

[–] assaultpotato@sh.itjust.works 51 points 3 days ago (2 children)

North American elections aren't decided by changing people's minds, they haven't been for decades. They're decided by getting the non-voters out for your party. 30ish % of the electorate will never drop Trump. 35ish % of the electorate will never vote R. Elections are decided by the 35% in the middle who usually don't even vote.

They only vote when the impact on their lives is impossible to ignore, hence why Trump's COVID inflation gift to Biden got them off the bench. "Food is much more expensive now, I blame ". These people can be swung, but it requires their lives to be directly and obviously impacted. Maybe loss of healthcare would do it.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I've shifted my goal of convincing my parents from trying to get them to disavow Trump, to simply trying to convince them not to vote at all.

[–] 4grams@awful.systems 4 points 3 days ago

I tried that, they cut me off.

[–] Ancalagon@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Until you realize the gaming of the voting systems simultaneously being attacked and no one is talking about it.

[–] assaultpotato@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 days ago

Oh I'm with you - gerrymandering, purging of voter roles days before elections, systemic voter suppression methods, etc. are all existential threats to democracy. I'd argue that apathetic voters is a bigger issues though in aggregate, the vast majority (80%+) want taxpayer funded single payer healthcare but if you were to consider "did not vote" as a political party, "did not vote" would have won the election in 2024 by a landslide (40/30/30). Voter suppression alone cannot account for ~108 million voters.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago

When the Dems surrender, and health care premiums go up 5 times in a MAGA administration, the MAGA dummies will get it. They'll try to blame Dems somehow, but it will be itching them in their lizard brains that this is only happening under the MAGA administration.

[–] Triasha@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

The beatings I will continue until the truth gets through.