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Should a PvPvE game have to offer a PvE-only mode? (lemmy.world)
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Arc Raiders had a free playtest this weekend, and some players are arguing that the game needs a PvE-only mode. In the game players are tasked with scavenging resources from an open map infested with enemy robots alongside other players, with players not in your group effectively being another type of enemy. This, of course, has some players saying that fighting enemy robots is enough, that they don't need the extra stress of having to fight off other players too. The pro-PvP players are, of course, saying that this is what the game is, and if you don't like it you should go play something else.

It's not like that's never been done before. Sea of Thieves is another PvPvE game, and not too long ago it too got a PvE-only mode.

What do you say about this? Should a game that wants to be both PvE and PvP also offer exclusive modes?

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[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 16 hours ago

The game was originally planned to be a PvE only game, but the game wasn't fun according to the data by their playtesters

There's work that is involved in properly making and balancing and creating content for a different mode. You design the entire game around how you play it, in those case PvPvE. So no, they shouldn't. And neither should devs be forced to make a game they don't want to make. If you remove the PvP from the game as-is, you will lose out on a lot of what the game is supposed to be, and the interactions and moment-to-moment gameplay you have. Not to mention you're gonna split the playerbase which is rarely healthy for a multiplayer game.

There's a reason PvP is included, and that's because it a straight up impossible to implement the sort of dynamism and unpredictability PvP adds.

There's not a lot of games like Arc Raiders, and it is the kind of game that I want. Not every game is, or should be made, for everybody. That's how you get the sort of environment of undifferentiated AAA games where they all look and play the same all designed by committee to appeal to the greatest amount of possible to earn as much as possible