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[–] AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today 117 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (28 children)

They're just trying to find other ways to take guns from leftists and trans people.

Also, since pot is federally illegal, and legal states don't normally give the feds buyer info, how the hell would they even know? A form asking if you smoke pot? What stops someone from just saying they don't?

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 76 points 5 days ago (15 children)

A form asking if you smoke pot?

Yes, that's exactly what already happens. The form in question is ATF 4473 for purchasing a firearm, and it is a federal crime to lie on that form. As far as the ATF is concerned, it does not matter if weed has been legalized in your state or not, or if it's for medicinal purposes or recreational.

As of now, you cannot own a firearm if you are "an unlawful user of, or addicted to" pot or any other banned substance. This has rarely been enforced, and it's hard to bring enough evidence to actually prove it. Were they a user when they bought it? A user an hour later? A month later? How do you even prove that in court?

The few times it's been prosecuted, it's usually one thing in a pile of more serious charges.

If the Supremes rule against it, then it's just the status quo. Nobody can really prove it. There is some reason to think they'll strike this down.

[–] AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Yeah, I suppose my point is that it's very difficult to prove in court (especially the "regularly" part), and something would likely have to happen alongside the charge for it to be investigated in the first place. In other words, it seems like mostly theater, although it would be another tool to further charge any leftists that smoke pot in the future.

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 5 days ago

Mostly, yes. That said, a change would actually be less of a problem for leftists arming up.

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

My local weed store tracks user's purchases. I think every store i know of in NJ does.

[–] AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Well, sure, but that doesn't automatically mean the ATF has access to that.

They can buy that info from data traffickers.

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