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Democrats have only hardened their position as the government shutdown enters its 23rd day, leaving Republican majorities in Congress with few answers — and many criticisms.

For the 12th time, Senate Democrats blocked the Republican Party's government funding legislation this week without a single senator switching his or her vote.

Just three Democratic caucus members voted for the bill: John Fetterman, D-Pa.; Catherine Cortez Masto, D-Nev.; and Angus King, I-Maine. That means Republicans are still five votes short of the 60-vote threshold to ensure passage of the bill, just as they have been since before the government shut down 23 days ago.

Democratic voters had pressured their party to take a more confrontational posture toward Trump in the shutdown battle. The new stance may be paying off with the party’s base.

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[–] jackal@infosec.pub 68 points 1 week ago (23 children)

I was just telling my best friend that I think this shutdown is going to go on for six to eight months. Possibly to the point where the pot boils over and the government gets thrown away because it was closed for so long.

At least, one can dream that after months of bitter pain and suffering, we might possibly get people who care about others running a government. But that’s a whole hell of a serving of pain and suffering before we get there.

Fuck it, let’s general strike this place. Medicare for all with the govt reopen and all those critical services back or nothing ever happens again.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Possibly to the point where the pot boils over and the government gets thrown away because it was closed for so long.

Lovely notion, but realistically... who is going to do the "throwing away?" There's no system above our government. We don't have a deal with Britain that they'll come back if we can't manage our country. There's no real such thing as law above a nation.

Instead we have thousands of aspiring political leaders on both sides who will see ANY vacancy of power as an opportunity. They're jockeying right now like Mad Max behind the scenes, but instead of tricked out cars with spikes, it's committees, delegations and policy wonkery to get prepared for the midterms which are still a year away.

I am only saying all this because you and your friend's sentiment is common and needs to be adjusted... Nobody is coming.

[–] jackal@infosec.pub -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I guess you missed the whole last paragraph I mentioned where we can do a general strike and start helping ourselves. But sure, whatever you say bub.

[–] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

But your entire last paragraph, on the practicality and realism spectrum, ranks just a bit lower than "worthless, idle wishful thinking".

It's no more or less serious than if you'd said we should all just join together in song and force aliens to show up to fix all our problems.

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