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well yeah. they know once we hit november first its going to be more obvious to more folks what their bend over bill really does.
Fetterman is a Democrat just like manchin is a Democrat, so basicly not a democrat.
Manchin was a democrat from a very right wing state. He never hid his views and that he was going to be very right wing democrat.
Fetterman said he was a progressive, ran as a progressive, and went hard right wing when he got in office. Yeah the brain damage changed him but I think he was always a Republican in Democrat clothes.
Hope they downgrade the US’s credit reputation yet again.
Last time they did that, sales of Treasuries actually went up. Quixotically, the downgrade hurt the stock market. People divested of equities. And then they needed to move the money to a safe place. So.... uh.... Treasuries.
Not gold?
Gold has a lot of transaction friction.
Goddamnit Fetterman be an actual democrat again for 5 minutes.
Why hasn't he been kicked out yet?
Same reason Charlie Brown hasn't kicked that football
Seriously. He needs to be censured and removed from the party. Make him run as an independent.
What's the process for removing a sitting Senator?
He hasn't been kicked out because he won the election, that's how that works.
The Senate can vote to remove a member with a two thirds vote. The last time it happened was 1862.
Need the ability for recall elections IMO
I mean…we have an impeached, pedophile, multiple convicted felon as president. The wheels for moving someone unfit out of office have been painted over with gold glue made in china, for make America great
Kinda think we’re past ballot and closing in on ammo box
The rules for removing a president are onerous to the point of unviability in a two party system.
Well the literal answer to your question is guns
However what I thought was pretty clear in context is that I was referring to the Democratic party, not the Senate nor existence.
Even if Fetterman was primaried, there would just be a new rotating villain.
Keep it shutdown and keep the core message that GOP can end this if they cared about health care for normal americans.
Keep up the pressure and rally around the message.
The message from the right is that this is about Democrats demanding woke shit and providing health care for illegals. They're getting their message out there too.
We don’t negotiate with terrorists.
We literally do, though. We negotiate all the fucking time. Reagan was negotiating with terrorists when he said that.
Fetterman is a disgrace.
He's just appeasing the Nazis. It worked back in WW2
There is no negotiating to be had on the issue. Remove the cuts to healthcare or fuck off.
It's actually worse. With the pocket recision that has already been used, the administration has literally demonstrated that they will rescind any deal they don't want to pay for. Frankly, the only way to negotiate in good faith would be some legal measure passed and tested by the courts (because the pocket recision used to be illegal until this SCOTUS ruled in favor of it, like just in time for this budget needing to be passed), guaranteeing that the administration will fund what Congress has appropriated funds for.
Just three Democratic caucus members voted for the bill: John Fetterman, D-Pa.; Catherine Cortez Masto, D-Nev.; and Angus King, I-Maine.
Hear that Nevada and Maine? You should probably deal with your traitors.
Everybody already knew about Fetterman
Listing Maine’s as independent makes it odd to list them as Democratic.
'Democratic caucus'; I assume they usually work with the Democrats despite not being one, a la Bernie Sanders
Democrats in every way but name.
Maine is working on it, at least.
If we don't hold the line now, everything gets much worse.
I was just telling my best friend that I think this shutdown is going to go on for six to eight months. Possibly to the point where the pot boils over and the government gets thrown away because it was closed for so long.
At least, one can dream that after months of bitter pain and suffering, we might possibly get people who care about others running a government. But that’s a whole hell of a serving of pain and suffering before we get there.
Fuck it, let’s general strike this place. Medicare for all with the govt reopen and all those critical services back or nothing ever happens again.