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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

First of all, I live in Florida, sooo Conservative region? Yeah.

Trump/Putin/Musk - two of the worst foreign Psychopathic Oligarchs in the world, with infinite access to money and the best and most experienced computer programmers and hackers on the planet, with no loyalty or patriotism towards the United States, teamed up with an American Psychopathic Oligarch wannabe, who also has no loyalty, all viewing America as a big, fat, lazy RICH target to be ruthlessly and mercilessly exploited.

All they had to do was swap the votes for one race, in 7 states. That kind of cheating would be difficult for individual Congressional or Senate races, but not for the presidential race. All that was need was access to the voting machines, and Putin's hackers have no doubt been working on that for years.

We all saw it happen. Both Trump and Musk had multiple meetings with Putin, by phone and in person, during the Biden administration, and they didn't try to hide it. It was all reported widely in the media.

And now EVERYTHING that was promised in P2025 is happening, and STILL people want to pretend that it was a fair election.

They told us they were going to steal the election, they did everything they said, the results are exactly what they said they would be, and yet, somehow there are people who still believe that MAGA won fairly.

WTF is WRONG with everybody?

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not saying they won "fairly" because there is no such thing. I am saying that if we shift the blame for this conservative sweep that is not just isolated the US, on election rigging and not a massive problem with our society, our communication and our social systems, we are going to fucking lose harder next time. It's denial. It's the same as pretending nazis were inhuman monsters and not regular people like any of us.

It's dangerous.

It's as dangerous as fucking binary thinking where we can't accept that there is nuance. The left is as bad as the right in this. If someone says "There may be complications" that doesn't mean "DUR DEE DUR TRUMP DID NOTHING WRONG."

There are shades of grey in the world. The right doesn't understand this, but if you CAN understand this, you are better than them, you are smarter than them. Otherwise you're just another vulnerable mind in a world that now preys on vulnerable minds.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

THEY WON BY CHEATING! If we don't address that single issue, they will do it worse next time, and he is going to win in 2028 with 98% of the "vote," and use that to justify ignoring the Constitutional prohibition of a third term.

You can't reasonably expect to win against a election fraud scheme that has already succeeded once, and is in the process of getting even more streamlined.

You can keep trying to find the people who refused to vote in the most attended election in history, but it will never be enough to outpace vote switching, it only gives them more votes to switch.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Capital letters don't really change anything. I've said what I said based on decades of watching these things, I know how the world works. If we chase around cheating evidence we will lose even more. It's not how the game works. The real problem is people and what Americans think and feel, if you fix any level of cheating you will still have that as a much worse problem.

But this is also why we don't see politicians going after election fraud to any large degree, because they also understand how things work.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I've been following politics since the 60s, so I know what's going on, too. One thing I've learned in life is that you can't let the guy who is always winning by cheating to continue. It is highly demoralizing to everyone else. It doesn't help that the cheater usually rubs his ill-gotten wins in everyone's faces.

They have developed a wide-ranging system of cheating, that just evolves and gets stronger. You will NEVER win an election until you address it. Even if you do manage to win one, they will just use their short period out of power to improve their cheating strategy to win next time, which is exactly what they did between 2020 and 2024.

The system is broken, and it needs to be fixed. Just using the broken system harder is only going to make things worse. When an appliance is acting up, you don't just pound on it, you fix it properly.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

Good luck with that.