They're so far to the left I don't even consider them left anymore. They've fully wrapped around to be indistinguishable from the right (but not racist so much as intensely totalitarian).

[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Horseshoe theory

[+] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml -7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Equating communists you disagree with with fascism is holocaust trivialization, according to mainstream Jewish scholars of the holocaust.

https://jewishcurrents.org/the-double-genocide-theory

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

When did I say I was minimizing the Holocaust?

I'm saying that both are authoritarian. Both are incompatible with Democracy and the current rules based international order, which when working correctly can prevent genocide from occurring (i.e. if the UN peacekeeping missions actually do their job).

[–] MrBusinessMan@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

rules based international order

What rules? Who do I report the USA to for repeatedly violating all of the rules and killing millions of people around the globe?

[+] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml -8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

When did I say I was minimizing the Holocaust?

You are equating them. Read the link from the mainstream Jewish holocaust scholar to understand why that's holocaust trivialization.

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

the Bogus moral equivalence of the Holocaust has been from the time of the actual massacres the myth that the Jews were all Communists and got what they deserved because Communism was every bit as genocidal as Nazism. Hence what the Jews call the Holocaust is a kind of opposite and equal reaction to the first genocide, the crimes of Communism.

First of all, this was not what I was implying. I never said that Communists were equally as genocidal as Nazis, nor that I deny that the Holocaust occurred. Putting words in my mouth is arguing in bad faith.

I am saying that the Tankies on the left support the same type of authoritarian policies that are prevalent on the right. While actions like, for example, the Tiananmen square massacre are not as large in scope as the Holocaust, accepting the CCP party line on the issue is antithetical to human rights, just as any massacre is. Supporting authoritarian regimes that do this is, in fact, just as bad regardless of whether the party is "left" or "right".

Did the Holocaust occur? Yes. Did it result in the death of millions of Jews at the hands of the Nazis? Yes. I'm not disputing any of these facts, so please do not suggest that I am denying the Holocaust.