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Leaker yeux1122 says that Apple Store staff have been told to make sure iPhone 15 buyers know about the change...

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[–] garretble@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Or lightning was available first before usbc, and apple went with that and just has been stubborn to change.

Looks like lightning in 2012 and usbc in 2014.

[–] stonedemoman@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Apple developed lightning. It had the same transfer rate as USB 2.0 which had been out for over a decade. It wasn't about being "stubborn", it was about being proprietary.

[–] garretble@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

That’s a fair point. Apple has been known to do that in the past with FireWire.

But I guess on the issue of whether or not — at the time, two years before usb-c was readily available — apple should have used usb-c or lightning (the thing they helped make), you would assume they would go with lightning over waiting until an unknown amount of time for another plug to be available.

When I say they were stubborn to change from that, they were/are simply stubborn to change from that. I wish they would have pulled the bandaid off when they switched to usb-c on iPad.

Though, that said, barring speed/power, I do actually think the lightning connector is a superior design. It’s simpler, and there’s nothing to break inside the port on the phone/device. I wish usb-c was physically the same or similar.

[–] olympicyes@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

FireWire was legitimately superior at the time, particularly for video transfer.

[–] stonedemoman@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I still have to disagree. There was no reason for them to develop lightning in the first place. It has 0 advantages over technology already available at the time, and their adapters use the technology they're trying to upsell anyways- USB.

As for the last subjective part of your statement: "The Apple Community forums are full of people posting stories about their broken cables, and it appears to be one of the most common issues that Apple users are facing."

Edit: I wish I could find a conclusive source for lightning vs micro-usb charging speed in 2012, it has proven difficult. This article suggests an extremely negligible 0.3A difference that effectively did nothing because all phone batteries at the time had a 1A charging maximum https://www.gearmo.com/things-to-know-about-lightning-cables/

[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 7 points 2 years ago

Apple helped develop USB-C too as they are members of the consortium. No (non-self-serving) reason why they couldn't have delayed the swap an additional year or two back then.