Starting with... what navy. Ukraine has a few boats, it's hillarious that Russia tries to play this up like there is an Ukrainian fleet that is now headless and about to be defeated.

Russia is the only one of the two with a proper fleet in the Black Sea and somehow they still don't have controls of the waters.

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Major naval power loses naval war to country without a navy"

[–] tal@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_Navy

I don't think that they have any ships at the moment. I bet that the boats are theirs, though.

If you remember that raid they did recently with special forces on RIBs, the thing that took out that coastal S-400 in Crimea, I bet that they did that.

googles

Well, they were involved.

https://breakingdefense.com/2023/09/what-an-s-400-kill-and-a-spec-ops-raid-reveal-about-ukraines-ability-to-hit-russia/

The day after the destruction of the S-400, Ukrainian special operations forces belonging to the Ukrainian Ministry of Defence’s Main Intelligence Directorate (GUR), supported by the Ukrainian Navy landed on the west coast of Crimea near the settlements of Olenivka and Mayak. GUR’s Telegram channel reported that “special units on watercraft landed on the shore” before engaging Russian troops stationed in the area with the Ukraine units reporting having suffered no losses.

[–] tal@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Starting with... what navy.

My guess is that it probably still exists as an institution. It sounds like the Neptune missiles are their thing, so they're probably the ones firing those. They may not be at that hotel, but...

EDIT: I'd also give good odds that they're the guys doing the USV attacks.

If Ukrainian forces can make it to the shores of the Sea of Azov, my guess is that the Ukrainian Navy's role is going to get considerably more interesting, as I expect that they'll be responsible for doing the cutting of Russian supply lines over water to Crimea. As things stand, they can maybe interdict vessels in the Black Sea, but not the Sea of Azov, so they can't really fully cut off supply over water.

[–] theotherone@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

And the Black Sea fleet has left the Black Sea after the dry dock attack by Ukraine. They’ve fled to the Sea of Azov.

[–] Candelestine@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

As an American, I cannot in good faith call that flotilla of rusting missile platforms a "proper fleet".