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[–] Dee_Imaginarium@beehaw.org 73 points 2 years ago (15 children)

Loving the anti-tankie memes, establishing this community to be based af

[–] LunarTick@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Sorry to ask. I guess I'm one of the lucky 10,000 today, but what is a Tankie?

[–] RustledTeapot@kbin.social 24 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Generally someone who makes justifications and/or excuses for totalitarian communist regimes and their atrocities.

It came from still supporting Stalin after he sent tanks into a rebelling territory.

[–] Omega@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago

Stalin didn't send the tanks, he died in 1953, while the hungarian revolution happened in 1956, the prague spring uprising even later in 1968, and as far as I know the term was created in connection with these events.

[–] 0U714W@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't get how the USSR and CCP are actually "communist." Are they as "communist" as North Korea is a "Democratic Republic?"

[–] h34d@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago

To my knowledge, neither the USSR nor the PRC ever claimed to actually have achieved communism (hence why the USSR has "socialist" in its name, not "communist"), but they were governed by "communist" parties in the sense that they were following in the tradition of Marx and Lenin and at least claimed to want to achieve communism at some point. Of course, the USSR no longer exists, and the PRC has undergone a series of economic reforms since the 1970s, after the death of Mao. They now claim to follow something they call "Socialism with Chinese characteristics", but as far as I can tell it seems very similar to something I would call "capitalism in an authoritarian one-party state and a bunch of blabla about how it technically doesn't contradict Marx", but ymmv. So imo the CCP is now only called "communist" for historical reasons, and in that sense I see it as similar to the case of North Korea, but they might still have some theorists who would disagree with that assessment. And in the West in particular many people just mix up terms like "socialist" and "communist" anyway, and also often don't realize that the economic systems of Russia and China have changed a lot since the end of the cold war (or Mao's death).

[–] chickenwing@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 years ago

They are Stalinists and Maoists who refuse to admit any wrongdoing by communist leaders. They are pretty prevalent on lemmy. For some reason they are typically pro Russia regarding Ukraine. Nostalgia maybe? lol

[–] SeatBeeSate@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago

Auth left fascists. Stalin/mauist sympathizers. Think of the polar extreme opposite of authoritarian right.

[–] Martineski@lemmy.fmhy.ml 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Read things on this tankie instance to learn lemmygrad.ml

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