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"It is often said 'not all men'. But they are always men."
Eh. The older I get, the more I realize that sex is not a good indicator of character.
Sexists will disagree, though.
In incidents like this, with rude comments about looks, it's always men doing it tho.
And it's always men downvoting us women who point it out.
Y'all are fragile little beasties.
I mean, you're delusional if you think women never make comments like this.
Also probably sexist.
Definitely sexist.
Riiiiggghhhttt.
Have at it I guess.
Do you think it would be appropriate to say "it's always women who do x" and then call any women who disagree "fragile little beasties"?
If it were always women doing it and predictably always women throwing a fit when abuse were talked about? Yeah. Next question.
Yikes.
Are you crying now?
Jeez, you're just an awful person all around.
Probably. I'm old ... and just sick and tired of this same dumb shit year after year after year.
Maybe you guys could have a meeting to find new ways to annoy women? A change would be nice.
Don't blame your age for you being a sexist arsehole.
Damn are you fragile.
oh noes! men!!
Bad-faith exaggerations, lazy scapegoating, and unwillingness to accept responsibility will overshadow the truths in your positions.
You could've grown up to be anything you wanted, and you chose to become a loudmouth asshole on the internet. Why don't you go to a park or someplace and get some fresh air?
Sounds like you either spend too much time online or you really like hanging out with shitty people.
Eeexcept it's really not like that. Next rebuttal.
That's exactly why there's entire store shelves dedicated to selling magazines preying on insecurities about how men look, shows like househusbands of Atlanta, the Kardashian brothers, and why ~~women~~ men are known for talking trash about each other's appearance in the workplace
Ugh, the blind hypocrisy here has reached The Office level... Sweeping generalizations and prejudgements based on sex, by someone claiming to condemn sexism.
Our society has made leaps and bounds in women's rights and equality, but there's still so much room to grow and improve. I am a man, and I believe there is still an unfair advantage to being both white and male sex. I believe this is due to inherent explicit and implicit sexism and racism that still permeates our society.
But you are making sweeping generalizations that you claim as a fact. Cite yourself then. Find some reputable research that supports your sexist claims.
There's a difference between making statements as I have done above vs asserting sweeping generalizations as fact, as you have done.
The historic sexism against women doesn't mean that in any given situation, men are default at fault, or the greatest offender by number. It's especially absurd here, where you are making it out like women do not have conflict with one another.
Were you homeschooled all your life? Do you live in a bubble? This is a blatantly false and truly absurd statement that everyone can laughingly dismiss, based on countless counter-examples throughout their personal lives.
The most cunningly ruthless insults I've ever heard in my life have all been from women, who I considered to have more emotional intelligence than the average man.
I don't know.. maybe you're just trolling and I bit....
Haaaaaaave you ever watched TV? Just turn on Bravo at almost any point in the day and watch the reality TV women saying mean shit about other women all damn day. And those shows are primarily watched by women.
I agree there's a huge problem and it disproportionately affects women and it is disproportionately men causing it. And that's worth talking about and fighting against. I'm ready to take responsibility and fight this where I can, despite not being affected myself. But blaming all men is useless. What should we do, put all men in prison? No, we need to make sure women are protected and men are properly educated, and that men who do digusting shit are properly punished. We need to raise awareness about toxic masculinity. When people blame me and badmouth me for shit that other people did wrong that's sexism.
citation needed
You don't even notice how toxic you are. Delicious.
Right. That's why I once had to write up several women for writing really horrible things about the weight and appearance of a fellow woman co-worker on the ladies room white board.
Women NEVER insult other women.
There's a white board inside the bathroom? Why?
Hell if I know. We had one in the men's room too but the most it was ever used for was the occasional doodle. No one wanted to spend any more time in the restroom than absolutely necessary.
No, their singular experience invalidates your sweeping generalization. Women body shame all the time. It’s possible to have a discussion about body shaming, toxic masculinity, rape culture, etc without leaning on a cliche statement that ignores that women, as flawed humans with agency, also do bad things.
Not singular, but if I pointed out all the times I personally witnessed women being terrible to other women (or even being terrible to men) you'd probably label me as an incel woman hater.
But apparently, since YOU'VE never experienced it, it doesn't happen, right? Your anecdotal experience is somehow more valid than my anecdotal experience by virtue of gender?
I have two daughters and I am teaching them to call out any bullshit they might face, regardless of the sex of the offender.
Fuuuuckin hell lass, have you ever been to France? Wonder why a huge chunk of the women are slim?
Because the women are utter, utter cunts to eachother regarding bodyweight. It's toxic as fuck but it's not the men
This sounds like one of those statistics racists like to throw around about violent crime percentages.
"It is often said 'not all humans'. But they are always human."
STOP REPORTING THIS COMMENT! It doesn't break any rules.
It is a quote from the sister of Giulia Cecchettin, an Italian woman who was murdered by her ex 3 weeks ago.
Sexist comment. Way to ruin your post OP.
Wow, you got dog piled on for pointing out this simple truth.
Thanks for fighting the fight. I'm a couple decades younger than you starting to fight the fight for the next generation of women as well.
Pointing out the issues women face is completely valid. Even going so far as indicating that women receive a lot, or even a majority of this toxicity from men is totally fine too.
But suggesting men are the only ones who talk trash is completely disingenuous and destroys credibility. Lashing out with juvenile comebacks like "you crying now?" Is the icing on the cake.
Do better than OP if you want to be successful.
Lastly don't attribute downvotes to "dogpiling" because the reality is they made a shit argument and supported it shittily. That earns downvotes from folks of all opinions.
I don't need you to give me advice on how to be successful. If I am looking for it, I'll ask, thank you.
The rest of your reply doesn't even merit a reply.
You're on an open forum, expect anyone to be able to speak to you if you post. I am free to do so. I disagreed with your use of the phrase dogpiling, and replied as such
Your replying at all declares the merit. :^)
It's not the truth, though.
Yes, maybe it is true that the majority of body shaming comments come from me. I don't know. But it is 100% not true that "it's always men." Hell, that's so easily disprovable that anyone who believes it is being willfully ignorant.
I seriously doubt the majority of comments come from men. That it's what they fixate on, is a different matter.