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Is the bot/troll situation getting worse? (lemmy.giftedmc.com)
submitted 1 year ago by haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com to c/fediverse@lemmy.world
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It feels like the amount of both, divisive posts and ghoulish comments is rising again.

One could argue that the world has a lot of divisive stuff going on and lemmy just talks about it. But the way people post about stuff seems more oot and hateful than it has been in the past.

Not saying it is that but if I wanted to bring the Fediverse down or at least keep my customers from going there, I would sow this stuff as much as I can.

I'm blocking ghouls left right and center atm but if I ever asked a friend to join lemmy, I'd hate to think of what they would see that I dont anymore.

Do we need stronger moderation?

  • Maybe ban politics from c/memes?
  • Become a little more stringent on "dont be a jerk" rules in communities?

One thing that really bothers me is the collapsing "discourse". Trying to mend fences and keep the conversation between sides going ime leads to nothing but downvotes and shitstorm.

I feel like a little more interaction (instead of intervention, at first) of the moderators would do wonders there.

Thanks for reading this rant. Have a nice day.

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[–] echo64@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (5 children)

People here are blaming politics. I don't think that's it. The quality of comments and discussion here has taken a massive nosedive for the past four months or so, no matter what the topic is.

I think it's pretty simple, the terrible won. Everyone who wants good quality discussion left quickly when people started to act terrible. They didn't come back. So now we've created the toxic enabling environment that is enabling it hard today.

You can fix it with moderation, but that's a lot of work, and people get really angry.

I'm pretty close to just cutting my losses on lemmy. It's heading in the same direction as reddit but with less moderation, and simply because it's smaller, the awfulness is more visible.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Strongly recommend using the block more. Be your own mod

[–] echo64@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

that works for me, but I want to have good conversations with others, that's kind of the point. Blocking terrible people doesn't get that to happen

[–] MBM@lemmings.world 2 points 1 year ago

It feels like Lemmy has also become less... diverse? At this point I think the default assumption is that every user is a white, cishet, male, tech nerd from the US, which wasn't as much the case in the earlier days.

[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Some people do actively looking for fights instead of having meaningful discussions. I noticed them less and less now though, so either the mods got them, or they blocked me because I often call them out, or maybe they stopped frequenting smaller communities.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 1 points 1 year ago

I can see that. I will probably just start blocking communities and instances that have one of the extreme stances (either freeze peach absolutism or why you not outraged?!)

I‘m not going to leave lemmy or the fedi since there literally is nothing else, and especially not something with this much potential.

[–] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Agreed, except I don't think people starting to act terrible was the main problem. I think it's mostly bots.