I feel like all the news subs on Lemmy are slowly turning into a sixth form politics class with all the commie stuff recently. Is anyone here over the age of twenty, lol.

[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 10 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I've noticed it's certain users pushing this and it's not even pro-communism it's just pro-Chinese propaganda. They're not trying to elevate people's state of living, rather just pushing interests that benefit the Chinese government.

[–] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

Yup. Communism might be a viable thing and can be discussed neutrally but pro-China is just muddying the waters. They're pseudofascism

[–] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

Theres on particular one who seems to be spamming all news subs. I called them out the other day and got dogpiled by people on their instance so I assume that's their bag over there.

[–] steltek@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

pro-Chinese propaganda

That's really what it is. There's no balanced discussion. Just rabid nationalism and xenophobia that clearly breaks the rules. But because it's directed at the West, it gets a pass, I guess?

[–] 133arc585@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I think the fact that there is a variety of opinions being posted, compared to the censorship I witnessed on Reddit, is the more mature situation. If anyone is being childish, it's those who feel the need to censor opposing ideologies. Feeling free to post and discuss differing views has a lot of value. I am assuming by your use of "commie" that you'd rather dismiss an entire ideology and group of supporters outright rather than on any real grounds.

[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 2 points 2 years ago

What opinions and ideologies are you referring to exactly? What discussions are you referring to?

This person is simply pushing the interests of the Chinese government and only replies insults and bad faith arguments when you try to engage in "discussion" or comment "opposing ideologies." They're not advocating for communism, they're advocating for their specific government to control more. Pretty laughable especially in the context of censorship considering China monitors their entire nation's internet traffic and censors everything that isn't pro-China.

[–] help@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You should check out !worldnews@lemmy.world. Lot fewer tankies being useful idiots there. The magic of the fediverse 🪄

[–] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

Thanks for the tip. I'll get subbed. Seems like a lot of these types seem to be coming from a couple of instances.

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lemmy attracts more activists, while Reddit attracts more passive users. This was by design, and if you're unhappy with it then Reddit is still freely available.

Are you really surprised that activists aren't happy with the West?

[–] NuPNuA@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm not particularly happy with it, but I don't loathe it. There's a difference between being unhappy with your own country and holding water for dodgy places like China and Russia.

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Russia and China are in completely different domains imo.

At least China is trying to do some good in the world (not out of the goodness of their own hearts, but because they want to build China's China for cheap labour... And that's ok).

[–] jeena@jemmy.jeena.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

China doesn't have cheap labor anymore, they have a aging population and no next generation taking over.

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago

That's why they need Africa lol

[–] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I mean, in not arguing that China haven't contributed to the world economy and helped us get access to cheap tech and consumer good, but I think it's fair to criticise their approach to human rights.

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

For sure. Those problems are domestic, though, so to some degree it is a little hypocritical of us given the rather poor track record of North Americans and indigenous peoples.

As a Canadian, I do feel like me criticizing China for its treatment of some indigenous groups would be rather hypocritical given how Canada treated the First Nations people (the last residential school closed in 1997).

[–] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No country has a perfect history, go back far enough and we all have dark periods in how we've treated people. However that shouldn't mean we can criticise countries who are still doing so now in what's supposed to be a more progressive and enlightened world.

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's fair, but it just feels wrong to be criticizing other countries when we aren't even doing enough for those who suffered in our own countries. It's hypocritical.

[–] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm British, we don't really have an indigenous treatment issue. We exported that to you guys, lol.

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

lol very true

[–] APassenger@lemmy.one 2 points 2 years ago

It's only hypocritical if you approve of it in Canada.

If we all stay silent on topics because our individual countries have deeply problematic pasts, then we all stay silent.

We can be vocal about it at home and abroad.

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

lemmy.ml was started by tankies and lots of tankie post here. Other servers are not simply Chinese propaganda.

[–] APassenger@lemmy.one -1 points 2 years ago

OP is an angry tankie who, to their credit, surfaces topics. Any of us can, few of us do.

Until and unless a more diverse set of people surface news/topics, we'll have the status quo.

[–] APassenger@lemmy.one -3 points 2 years ago

OP is an angry tankie who, to their credit, surfaces topics. Any of us can, few of us do.

Until and unless a more diverse set of people surface news/topics, we'll have the status quo.