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This is one of the single biggest changes we can make to our current electoral system.
Should’ve done this in 2021. This could’ve changed the 2024 election entirely.
What did they do in 2021 instead?
Probably nothing else going on really. They're just lazy and fat off corporate cash piles, obviously.
Nothing. That’s the problem. Democrats are so afraid to play an opposition party cause it will negatively affect party leadership and top donors. They want the status quo and are more than likely benefiting from the Trump regime in many ways.
Make no bones about it: top Democrats have been complacent with a hostile takeover of the US government because it is benefiting them.
Progressive Democrats and party newcomers are seeing this reality. They tried to play the game for a bit but got burned like Bernie did. Some democrats are finally growing a backbone to stand up against geriatric party leadership.
Make no bones about it: top Democrats have been complacent with a hostile takeover of the US government because it is benefiting them.
I mean, I'd make a few bones about it. The best time to be an excellent Progressive party is 50 years ago. The next best time is now, though.
Biden could have arrested Trump on January 21st, and that would have been that
would have been more useful when you had any kind of power to get a bill passed, but thanks anyway i guess
Stow that shit. This is exactly what they need to be doing. They need to make the argument to the American people that they have better ideas and a better plan for America, and then create a voting record for Congress so they can beat them in the next election. Of course it won't pass, but if they give up without even trying, then the Nazis can act like they are the only option.
I agree, but i aint gonna stow it. Why didnt they introduce it when they were able to maybe pass it? Im not going to refrain from criticizing them just because worse people are in power.
when they were able to maybe pass it?
Lmfao when was this? A constitutional amendment of any kind has zero chance of getting passed by anyone and hasn't in the entire time the Citizens United ruling has existed.
Democrats around that time could barely muster enough votes from the Republicans to pass the milquetoast, conservative ACA via simple majority. You're deluded if you think Democrats ever could've plausibly reversed Citizens United via amendment.
So they throw this impossible task out there, something they can put all their energy and rhetoric into which will ultimately not bear results in my lifetime, and they can say see I was fighting against this tyranny.
This is such a bald-face transparent PR move I hope everyone sees it for what it is.
They’ve had multiple chances to fix this when they had real power. They’re idiots.
They’re idiots
They're idiots, or.. they are insincere.
The reality that people who vote Democrat loyally, especially white, middle income, NPR listening, card carrying liberals, need to come to terms with is this:
The Democratic party doesn't work for you.
The leadership of the Democratic party, it's party managers, the ones who hold real power: they do not share your same interests. It's always been performative. The vast majority of Democrats never meant any of it. The few that do are refused any real leadership or power. Every time they've had the votes to do something, anything, there is always a technical or procedural excuse. And when they now the thing can't pass, they use the opportunity to show their bonafide: precisely when it has no cost. The current political situation were in would be impossible without the weakness and persistent cuckoldry coming from the Democratic party.
It's a waste of time to invest further in the Democratic party. They were never going to come to your rescue, now less than ever when they are most needed. American leftist already knows this, it's time for the American liberal to develop a sense of shame at their unwillingness to oppose the baseless, performative bullshit they've come to accept as politics from the DNC.
We need a new political project. The DNC is cooked.
“But they didn’t have a 90 seat advantage in the Senate and 400 house seats and the presidency!!! How do you expect them to get anything done without that?!?” - centrists
Jfc. They and both houses of Congress multiple times since Citizens United and didn't do shit. Bringing it up now, when it won't even get through Congress, let alone the states, is a fucking distraction
Even then they never had the support to pass this or any constitutional ammendment.
I hate to say it but proposing a constitutional amendment is just virtue signaling at this point. There isn’t a snowballs chance in hell this passes even with 100% democrat support.
I appreciate the thought and effort but put forth legislation that actually has a chance at passing.
Virtue signaling is an important act for a minority party. It lets the base know what you stand for and what your opponents stand against. This is something with broad public appeal yet low congressional support (because politicians like monies). It's something you can hit your opponents with and, with a snowball's chance, you might actually make progress in passing.
"I want to take money out of politics, my opponent is captured by rich billionaires. They don't serve you, they serve the billionaires" It's an ad that writes itself.
This is something dems should be doing, especially since the last election was them running away from policy and instead doubling down on how much their policy isn't different from the average republican's. We saw how that turned out.
Good, but why the hell didn’t they do this when they had control of Congress?
Because they don't want it to pass obviously. When was the last time you went into your bosses office and demanded a pay cut??
This is just pandering. Maybe one or two of them actually want it but the rest will just pretend to care because they know the genie is never going back in the bottle
Wow so brave. \s \s \s
Seriously tho. These people are phony AF. They had 4 years to actually do this. This is just political theater.
I mean, they had 14 years didn't they?
Have they ever tried to pass an ammendment for this?
It is with a sense of similar urgency that I am proposing an amendment to make every Thursday a national holiday.
Like the Democrats, I also do not have any power to enact this, let alone enforce it, but the important part is that I proposed something impossible instead of actually doing literally anything to stop this.
Yup more useless posturing.
Do this and keep doing it until it works. This isn't a moonshot. It's normal, sensible change. Everybody shut your fucking mouths with all this secondary "it isn't going to work now" bitch energy. Get behind the shit you want, loudly.
Absolutely disingenuous to report this as "house Dems", as though the liberal (i.e. conservative) Dems are in on it. They are not. These are progressive Dems who propose this basically every year, and who are actually fighting for us, not corporations and profits. Liberal Dems then work with their Republican friends to shut it down. This is why liberal Dems are as much the enemy as the Republicans.
Instead of throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks, immediately get rid of the gerontocracy (Schumer, Pelosi), regroup, find a leader with some balls and declare open warfare on Republicans. It's not like there isn't any ammunition.
Where was this a decade ago?
Because there's no chance in hell that this will pass under a Republican majority.
Yeah, the sole reason they're suggesting it now is because they know it's too little too late. It will go nowhere and we all know this, them Dems will be like 'oh but we tried!' Fucking useless.
That would have been useful and a great idea over a decade ago.
Now it's just "let's do this" and nothing will happen. Its too late.
Would have been a lot cooler if Biden did this as a executive action. But you know spinless Democrats and all that...
But that would have upset the capital class and Biden is a proud capitalist so he would never put democracy before profits. Liberal Democrats only ever do things when they know that they don't have to worry about it actually happening.
Way too little, way too late.
Do not waste time talking about a non-starter.
You need 290 votes in the House, you have (at most) 215. You need 75 Republicans to flip.
If, miracle of miracle, that happens, it goes to the Senate where you need 60 votes to end a filibuster, you have (at best) 47. You need 13 Republicans breaking rank to end cloture + 7 more to pass it.
Then it goes to the states for ratification, you need 38. In 2024 19 states went to Harris which means you need all of them +19 Trump states.
Yeahhh...
I can't quite decide if this is just virtue signalling or not from the Democrats. I know some of them would genuinely support it, but this feels very much like it is too little, too late - if they were actually serious about saving democracy in the US, they could have done this when it actually stood a chance of being useful.
Criticism against CU isn't new, Dems had every opportunity to propose this when they had control of the WH and Congress just 3 years ago. Only now are they making a scene of reeling back corporate influence because they know it'll never pass
Now they ask for this? After having zero majority in either house? Acter letting a nazi waltz into the white house?
The Democrats have a long history of waiting until Republicans hold a majority in both houses to propose milquetoast change.
Keeps their name in the papers without actually having to do anything.
Wouldn’t it be nice if they did shit like this when they were actually in power?
Do the people in these comment sections not grasp how Constitutional amendments work?
It requires two thirds of the Senate. Which Democrats have not had in the past half century.
That is why Democrats didn't try it when they had a majority. Because it would not work.
People really just want an excuse to blame Democrats for everything.
It's far more complicated than that to get an amendment passed including a route that doesn't require Congress.
Second, there is value in trying things that will fail. It sends a signal to the citizenry that this isn't acceptable. This can be a good just as much as it can damage their reputation. In my opinion, the Dems need to rebuild a reputation that is connected to the people in some meaningful way. I don't get the sense that Democratic leadership see that as the core issue
Citizens United has been fucked since jump
