homesweethomeMrL

“Lawmaker”

Just say republican, for god’s sake.

~~No, you're a sad clown. With no ideas.~~

~~Thanks for shitting in something you know nothing about. You're a big boy!~~

Okay wait - I went to your comments before blocking you and you're not a troll or an idiot - so what the fuck? Are you literally saying democracy is infeasible?

Do you really just hate the Democrats so much that you dont' see any way out? Surely you would vote third party or something right?

I dunno. You're just being a dick so maybe that's the answer but I thought I'd try just in case.

The logical choice was to not let trump win, to keep things moving forward and to make progress.

There are a lot of accelerationists in the crowd and they don't appreciate how bad accelerationism makes things. It's a shame.

Well I just want to say it's been an interesting conversation and I appreciate the measured tone you've taken and your efforts to explain your position. I really do.

I think you're right that my friends are probably in the 2nd group you outlined. I think Carter, Clinton, Obabma, (and yes, Biden) all fall into that category of working towards a two-state solution that allows everyone to live peaceably. Certainly that's the dominant message I've ever recieved from the Democrats.

But as for this part: The problem is that following the Oslo Accords, the far-right recognized that momentum was slowly shifting their way, and the liberal zionists never fought it. They liked the idea of rights and justice, but they didn't really have the stomach to advocate for the agency of Palestinians.

Wasn't that the whole issue about Yitzhak Rabin? As per Wikipedia:

In 1992, Rabin was re-elected as prime minister on a platform embracing the Israeli–Palestinian peace process. He signed several historic agreements with the Palestinian leadership as part of the Oslo Accords. In 1994, Rabin won the Nobel Peace Prize together with long-time political rival Shimon Peres and Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat. Rabin also signed a peace treaty with Jordan in 1994. In November 1995, he was assassinated by Yigal Amir, an extremist who opposed the terms of the Oslo Accords.

So the way I saw it, was that his assassination was a coup for the far right as represented by Bibi and the Likud is the equivalent of the MAGATs here - that is to say, utterly reprehensible people who do not represent what most people want.

But you're making the case that in fact most people DO want what Likud is selling they just don't have the courage to express it? If that's the case, how do you know this? I mean is it strictly anecdotal or do you know of some other data that suggests that? I admit I'm only going by what I have heard and my assumptions from reading the news, so that's why I'm asking.

And, more than that, that Biden somehow falls into the category of supporting a two-state solution but secretly (?) wanting to eliminate all Palestinians?

I may or may not be in denial about the "reality fo the situation" - could you kind of spell it out for me?

Holy shit, it's you!

My dude. You're just not grokking the American people. Look at your example. Look at it:

Are we winning yet?

I'd like to thank everyone for my most upvoted post on lemmy ever. Not only have you upvoted it to the top for like 2 days you commented the shit out of it. I'd like to take this opportunity to say fuck the mods of this instance. This was my second post coming off a 30 day ban and I want to say these fucking mods have been nothing but bitches. I've never been more attacked on any other instance, subreddit, forum, etc. then I have been in this fucking instance. Not only have I been attacked I've been told my memes arent memey enough again and again.

I'll be honest, I do not know how to make a meme but I keep posting just to piss in these mods cheerios.

Thanks lemmy.world/politicalmemes for being the worst community I've ever been a part of.

So your guy here really thinks this is reddit. Like, his first concern is about how many upvotes he got. Then he throws a tantrum because the mods are "bitches". Okay. So this thread is your great example of what we should do?

Violent revolution. Just say it. That's what you want Americans to do. No need to be coy. You can say it. And that's okay - I get that it would be fun to watch in the news. But that's not likely for a few reasons. Not least of which is, a full frontal assault on the army is not likely to work.

And really, unless you're here, on the back roads, you won't understand it anyway. America must seem like a fictional story from reading about it and watching the crazy crap that's always going on. That's why actually living in it (or any country) is so different. Florida isn't actually Florida as it is in the news. It's better - and worse - but not the same at all.

So, outside of violent revolution, any other thoughts? I'm guessing no, which is fine. It's our problem to work out isn't it. Thanks for the input. Clearly there are some people who (are ostensibly American and who) think it's a good idea.

You think no one's working on AGI because it will make money worthless?

I get it. You're coming up in the equivalent of GHWBush and the first egregious Gulf War. Democrats are ineffective at best, incompetent and buffonish most of the time, and often jump the fence and do the exact opposite of what you want them to do sometimes. Particularly when there's a lot of flag-waving going on.

But I'm here to tell you it's not like that now. Back then, or even in the Gee Dubz horror years, there was no AOC or The Squad or Bernie or (well, yes there was Bernie but he got no press. That's a whole other story.) and there sure as hell wasn't real-time communication between actual Democrats as to what the fuck the party thinks it's doing.

I'm saying that we're pissing away a huge battleship, already gassed up and outfitted, because a bunch of russia-influenced twits who just put down Das Kapital and have less than zero experience with the machine that is the US Government, thinks Democrats bad.

First of all, countering propaganda doesn't happen in one-offs. But you're right about everything there.

And, as it happens, all of those ideas have been floated for many decades now. Unless someone gets through to literally everyone we'll be floating them into the watershed of history and nothing will ever get better.

First time? Yeah. The russian state is . . not . . . good.

Again - what's the alternative. Seriously. Take your time.

Is it amassing at the state house with armor and placards? Possibly a sit-in? Are you suggesting we take over a university administration building? Reading Anarchist's Cookbook and making some black powder bombs and smoking banana peels? JFC. GI.

WHAT. What do you got.

Nothing. For the last year, anytime I ask this question, that's the ultimate answer. You got a nose full of attitude. Great. That's great, kids. You'll go far with that. It's a wonder you haven't made any headway at all in any aspect of governmental power already.

The article is by Mike Masnick, founder of Techdirt. To wit:

Jul 29, 2023Mike Masnick, who founded Techdirt in 1998, writes for an influential audience of lawmakers, C.E.O.s and activists. Somehow, he's still an optimist about the promise of technology.

Well if he's got the ear of influential muckety-mucks what is he telling them? Who is his Senator? Also, not to nitpick but he doesn't actually sound optimistic.

Ooh he's credited with coining "the Streisand effect" so that's cool.