FK France. I love the country, but I hate how the government of France is against freedom and privacy. France has also the most Internet restrictions in place of all EU countries.
this post was submitted on 14 Feb 2025
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And then what they did to Telegram. One can't trust that platform anymore, since the spooks have been given the keys to the kingdom.
Fact! If the telegram ceo didn't gave the keys, he was still in prison now in France.
Weirdly OG freedom enjoyers don't appreciate digital freedom?
And they are pushing this to protect "property" rights of some parasites?
Ironically, pirating is also largely ignored (unless things have changed in last couple of years) due to politicians inability to understand, and therefore, "regulate", the internet
Okay, so VPN providers have to block access to sites.
So now make them VPS resellers and you set up your own VPN. Do all VPS sellers need to do this? Will AWS, GCP, and Azure have to block pirate sites?
Or what if I just ship a raspberry pi to a friend in some other country, will his ISP have to block access even if they’re outside their jurisdiction?
If a Government is able to successfully assert that companies within their borders must block access to content they find abhorrent, it's only a matter of time before they're convinced they can do it to ISPs, too.
But what about companies outside their borders?
Won't even matter. Like I said, if they convince themselves that they have the right to limit from within their borders it's only a matter of time before they convince themselves that they can limit ISPs. Then you have precedence, and other countries will follow suit.
That’s not exactly how jurisdiction works without a lot of international cooperation.
Plus we can just trade DNS entries or damn hosts files and they won’t know. The Pirate Bay is even still up.
The Internet was designed to withstand nuclear weapons. It’s not going down without a fight.
There is no jurisdiction. I'm speaking exclusively about France...
If France convinces themselves that they have the right to limit access to websites via VPN and other likewise software, it's only a matter of time before they convince themselves that they have the right to limit access at the ISP level.
Then once precedence is set, other European countries will follow Frances' example.
The Internet was designed to withstand nuclear weapons. It’s not going down without a fight.
If you believe this statement to be accurate at all you're not paying attention...
And unless they want to send their troops into another country to tell that ISP what sites to block they can’t block them.
If you believe this statement to be accurate at all you're not paying attention...
I helped Syrian and Egyptian dissidents to circumvent internet blockages during the Arab Spring. I have absolutely been paying attention.
And unless they want to send their troops into another country to tell that ISP what sites to block they can’t block them.
As I said to the other guy, I'm exclusively referencing France here.......
Right, but if I’m in France and get my friend in Kazakhstan to plug in a Pi to create a VPN - which is pretty trivial provided you have a Kazakh friend - how will the French stop the Kazakh ISP from letting a computer in Kazakhstan access a website that is legal in Kazakhstan?
ISP mandated blocking has been around for decades. If you're talking about something else, I think most people here (and I) do not understand what
This seems hilariously unenforceable.
Yup. If your VPN complies, just pick one in a different country.
Net result: VPN company loses customers.
And if the good commercial VPN options are exhausted - you rent a VPS and set up your own)
Yup, I set one up for myself and it didn't take much time at all.
swiss vpn provider also licks trumps boots
Come on, just because the CEO endorsed a Trump candidate using the company social media? Then backpedalled after the backlash? And then sent emails about how Proton is totally agnostic about politics and how the CEO is a Asian immigrant so surely they can't support Trump?
Maybe Proton should quit being buddy buddy with the US government and US big tech if they want us to take them seriously about this
Watch out for Spain trying to block Cloudfare-hosted pirate sites with DNS. A judge the other day just said they can keep at it.