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Thus disarming the lie that he's a dictator that is spread by fine people like Donald Trump, Elon Musk and Lemmy tankies.

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[–] mok0 6 points 2 days ago

Of course that's not what he said. As usual the media twist and turn his statement to make interesting news. What he said was he was willing to resign if Ukraine would join NATO. That last part is conveniently ignored by journalists.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why would his resigning bring peace?

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He said this to counter the russian lies (that Trump and Musk are parroting) that he's in effect a dictator because he hasn't "allowed" elections.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

How does it do that?

How are they Russian lies if Trump and Musk are saying them? Is this a case of Americans always blaming their own bad behaviour on foreigners?

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

How are they Russian lies if Trump and Musk are saying them?

Not saying, parroting. Repeating. Aping. Copying. Echoing. Miming. Seconding. Spitting imaging.

Is this a case of Americans always blaming their own bad behaviour on foreigners?

I'm not American.

[–] bobr@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org -4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

"A dictator disproves the fact of him being a dictator by saying he is not".

Wow, that's pure genius right here.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Who are you talking about?

Who is your post about?

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

No no you don't get it. A dictator isn't when you outlaw opposition parties, call off elections, and push charges of treason for dissident leaders and publish their names in a kill list.

Dictatorship is when you don't obey every whim of the US.

[–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Smart move tbh. Pressure is applied, pressure is returned to sender. Given Zelenskyys now mediocre approval, it might even boost public opinion in his favour

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)
[–] bobr@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The context for the first link - the parliament actually FAILED to vote for it the first time (that's why the second attempt was required). https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2025/02/24/7499829/ imagine banning opposing political parties, and still failing to secure a vote "confirming" your legitimacy. Yep, that's how bad it is.

As for the second link (in case there are people who unironically believe this) - people are literally kidnapped from the streets, packed into vans and sent to the meatgrinder. Remember hearing about oppressive regimes where you are going to jail for criticizing the government? Ukraine is a democratic country, so here you are not going to jail, you are going to be just killed. I don't know who are the 43% in this article brave enough to say they don't support Zelensky.

[–] FreudianCafe@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You are trying to present facts to people who are unable to breath out of the propagandosphere

[–] bobr@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well, I am obviously not expecting to change a mind of someone from the sopuli instance (the top post there right now is "Ukraine’s Top Military Leadership: We Are Starting to Win, Russia Is Starting to Lose" 🙃).

But pointing out propaganda is better than doing nothing.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

the top post there right now is “Ukraine’s Top Military Leadership: We Are Starting to Win, Russia Is Starting to Lose” 🙃

Lmao still there? Did they pinned it for three years?

We win so much that our glorious leaderahip just can't stop bragging about it every month

[–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago

And you think that's a low rating in a democratic state that's waging a war?