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Fuck Windows and Microsoft really. Today I had a meeting call through Teams first thing in the morning so I start my computer 10 minutes earlier than the call because it takes a like 3 or 4 minutes to boot and for Windows to be responsive. Windows decides to apply some past update so it takes 2 or 3 additional minutes which is fine, I am just in time for the meeting call. Well, 10 minutes into the call a notification in windows appears that the computer will restart in 5 minutes and with no option to postpone WTF. Imagine this was an important sales call, an emergency or something else critical, I might be fucked. The computer restarted I started my linux personal computer and I connect my bluetooth headphones to the it but no, they were connected to the Windows computer while it was restarting so I could not just call from it as the microphone started failing a few weeks ago. (I will just replace it, thanks Framework). So fuck my company for using Windows. Fuck Windows for developing such a nightmare OS with so shitty code. This was for sure a patch for a critical vulnerability, like always. And WTF this is Windows for a business, have a fucking super stable branch that does not need patches every other day. I don't care about your updates to the shitty weather widget, just have a fucking working operating system that let's me do my work. Fuck Microsoft monopolistic practices that keeps people and businesses from switching to Linux. There is no better publicity for Linux that Windows itself. Most Linux/GNU distros just let you choose when to update.

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[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 hours ago

I recently had a spare machine sitting around doing nothing and was feeling a bit masochistic, so I decided to install Windows 11 on it just to see what it was like. I've used Windows 10 a tiny bit but essentially haven't touched Windows in years. A couple of the fun things I noticed:

  • After installing, I was going to set a new wallpaper. I double-clicked on a jpeg file and instead of opening it, it popped up with a window asking me what I wanted to do with this apparently unknown file type. I literally said out loud, "what do you mean, it's a fucking jpeg." Then it did the same thing for a .zip.

  • I also made a restore point once I had all the basics installed, so I could roll back when Windows inevitably fucked up doing an update. I then did the first big update and it fucked it up. "No worries" I thought, "I made a restore point!" I went to restore it, and discovered that for some unknown reason Windows only saves one restore point. This wouldn't have been a problem, except that Windows had decided to fuck itself up, and then automatically overwrite the manual save point with it's own save point from immediately after it fucked itself up, leaving that as the only thing to restore to.

I then quite sensibly formatted the drive and went back to using Linux.

[–] Broken@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 hours ago

I'm assuming the windows machine is a work PC and the Linux is yours right?

Because what you describe doesn't sound like a "windows" issue but rather an IT management issue.

You can put off updates and reboots a very long time. And always be able yo postpone them.

Applying updates on boot daily sounds dumb to me. But I'm also figuring your IT dept has poor (or no) sense in managing their inventory well. Most updates can be applied silently at a scheduled time.

Also, your machine sounds old and/or poorly maintained the way you describe it. If its more than 5 years old your company is just cheap.

I'm all for griping about Windows but this seems off to me.

[–] Abnorc@lemm.ee 3 points 6 hours ago

This sounds like a problem with your organization. I use windows at the hospital where I work, and we don't run into these kinds of issues. Yeah it is rife with other issues like goading you into using microsoft edge, one drive, and more, but updates are handled by IT.

[–] easily3667@lemmus.org 7 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

You want to use Linux and yet you don't know what a newline character is?

[–] Fifrok@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

why bother with that in a rant, I say it's bloat, and they were right to no use it. in fact now that im thinking about this i realize i can save a lot of time if i dont give a shit what the text looks like. cry about it

[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

IFYOUREMADENOUGHEVENSPACESANDLOWERCASELETTERSAREBLOAT

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

NDCNSNNTS2

translationAnd consonants too

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 0 points 7 hours ago
[–] HurlingDurling@lemm.ee 8 points 10 hours ago

I've only worked at one software company where devs where allowed to install Linux as their OS. It was awesome... except when there was an update and then you had an urgent request from management while you where fixing what the update broke

[–] Bogasse@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

I have a channel on my team's Slack were I just vent off on these kind of situations 😬

#windows-is-the-best, inspired from #gitlab-is-the-best, the chan were everyone vents off when the CI refuses to pick up workers 😅

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 8 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I actually would really prefer for companies to just provide us virtual machines and I can connect to vpn and then to the work hosts. This way I can use my own setup.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 hours ago

VDI is fairly common, but it has is own set of problems

[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Fuck Windows and Microsoft really.

🙏🙏🙏 testify, brother.

[–] easily3667@lemmus.org 3 points 9 hours ago

Hey you can't just assume someone on a pro-linux rant on Lemmy is a man....

Jk

[–] golden_zealot@lemmy.ml 11 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

I unplugged my company issued Windows 11 Dell laptop from its charger yesterday so that I could go ask a manager a question in their office, and the entire computer just shut the fuck off despite having full charge. I'm so glad I moved all my personal stuff to Linux.

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Sounds like you have a bad battery

[–] golden_zealot@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Possibly, though I would be surprised. I only recently got this job so the laptop is brand new, but I have also had it long enough that it was an odd and unexpected event, before then I had not had any power issues, and not since either. Since it is not reproducible, I'm not so sure it is the battery.

Outside of this, it is either Win 11 or the Dell hardware that has other peripheral issues. Often when disconnecting from a secondary display, the screen freaks out and I have to try again. Furthermore when logging into the laptop remotely, Windows 11 for some reason decided to wipe out cleartype, making all the font textures crunchy, despite having set Remmina to connect with best-quality settings.

[–] toddestan@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I see enough weird behavior out of the Dells at work and their USB-C docks so I can believe it. Not detecting the dock, not charging from the dock, ports not working on the dock, randomly insisting the dock isn't compatible. Even the machines that end up as folding desktops that never get disconnected from their dock end up doing this stuff. I really had no use for a laptop anyway so I finally convinced them to give me a desktop.

[–] teri@discuss.tchncs.de 30 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Windows also used to show me the ugly face of Trump in the start menu even if I didn't ask for it. That was more than 4 years ago. Recently was accidentally hovering over some 'copilot' button in Edge of a friend. And again - pop-up with Trump. So yes: fuck Windows, fuck Microsoft

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 13 points 19 hours ago

Wow, that is some nightmare fuel type shit. That's actually crazy.

[–] carrylex@lemmy.world 9 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

because it takes a like 3 or 4 minutes to boot

What kind of PC is this? Does it have an SSD?

[–] DarkMetatron@feddit.org 9 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

My one year old Dell Latitude with a fast SSD needs about 8 minutes every morning to boot windows and start all that security crap that company IT has put on there.

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Haha that's on your shitty IT dept. I'm sure the OS has very little to do with it

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[–] COASTER1921@lemmy.ml 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

This. I have a mobile workstation with a 12th gen i7, 32gb RAM, and NVME SSD but it's not uncommon to be waiting multiple minutes for boot due to all the pre-installed spyware from IT. It takes up half the RAM at all times and severely limits the performance for many non-whitelisted apps to the point I can't even run Firefox smoothly on it anymore.

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[–] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 67 points 1 day ago (13 children)

Our work is the opposite. As soon as a new machine arrives we go straight to BIOS at boot, switch the settings and install Linux immediately. Windows never sees the light of day. I do feel for you as we do do sales calls and in the middle of sales calls the people that we are calling have their computers reboot on them, do an update, or I've just got to restart and on restart it does an update and huge amounts of time are wasted on those people.

Windows probably costs the world millions a day in wasted, for time for shit like that.

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[–] sibachian@lemmy.ml 9 points 18 hours ago

my boss told me today if we moved to literally any non-microsoft platform or software, i'd be out of a job.

and he's right. most of us only have careers because microsoft can't push out a software that's more than barebone functional - and everyone use them even if there are far superior alternatives out there literally only because of familiarity.

i'm not planning to stop giving microsoft shit of course. they should be criminally prosecuted over their exchange service even and how it's blacklisting competitors to force businesses onto the platform a la microsoft classic tactics. but eh.

[–] RalziTech@lemmy.ml 29 points 23 hours ago

Windows fr thinks that getting updates done is more important than getting work done.

[–] twinnie@feddit.uk 39 points 1 day ago (9 children)

I’m no Windows fanboy but I have to use it quite a lot, at home and at work. I don’t know what versions or settings you guys have set up but I’ve never had a Windows update I can’t postpone, ever.

[–] palarith@aussie.zone 1 points 7 hours ago

24h2 is now a forced upgrade

[–] ranovich@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 hours ago

Me neither, until today...

[–] Im_old@lemmy.world 40 points 23 hours ago

In corporate managed fleet of PCs updates are pushed by the company internal management systems. Some companies give you a 24hours option, some others (ahem, power tripping sysadmins, I know, I was one) say "fuck you and your work, you install when I say so". It's not strictly a Windows thing, it's a company policy.

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[–] not_amm@lemmy.ml 6 points 17 hours ago

Too many times I've been at the very limit of failing to deliver an assignment. I used to have classes from morning to night (used to get home at 23:00) and sometimes I did homework at uni and scan/upload in my computer since camera-scanned documents don't look as good, so I had to deliver them ASAP, but Windows would take a LOT of time to load Teams and sometimes it started applying updates at startup, so it would be SLOW AS HELL.

Just some days ago it happened again (the homework was assigned a day before) so I booted up windows and what a surprise (/s) it started applying updates, so Teams wouldn't even open. I had to send the files from there to my linux computer (I love you, KDE connect!) because I still had to add some things to the document and Teams for Linux loaded in a second lol

[–] StrangeAstronomer@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 hours ago

I've been saying this for 30+ years, but no-one wanted to listen.

[–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 10 points 19 hours ago

This. If updates are SO important, then Windows can do it while it's shutting down.

[–] qpsLCV5@lemmy.ml 9 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

luckily i can wipe my work laptop and install linux (for now, there are discussions about not letting unmanaged devices on the network at some point...), but what annoys me is seeing how much tax money we send straight to microsoft. i work in the education sector in europe and the majority of the company's funds comes from the government, to send millions of that straight to the US, especially with the politics going on right now, seems like a horrible idea. and SO many others are doing the same thing, i swear if we invested just 10% of it into FOSS the world would be a better place already and we'd all save money.

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