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Trump just presided over one of the greatest diplomatic disasters in modern history, with flared tempers, raised voices, and shredded protocol.

Never before has a U.S. president bullied and berated an adversary, never mind an ally, in such a public way.

During a tense Oval Office meeting, Trump and JD Vance attacked Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, demanding he accept a peace deal with Russia or lose U.S. support.

The conversation devolved into shouting, with Trump accusing Zelenskyy of being ungrateful and “gambling with World War III.”

The meeting ended in chaos, with no agreement reached.

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[–] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 21 points 2 days ago (6 children)

What a shit show...

This is the weakness of modern democracies... You, as Putin, can just wait for 4 years and there will maybe be an idiot in power, who.ruins everything done before.

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[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 73 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No he is showing us exactly who we know him to be a piece of human shit.

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[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 37 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Wrote up a summary months ago (with reputable sources!) about this stuff, and was permabanned from Lemmy news and politics for it.

Idk man, you can tell people stuff, but it’s so hard for them to access what’s real right now. There’s a concerted online effort to suppress factual info.

https://lemmy.world/comment/13431373

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[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I just saw an ad for G20, a fiction where some terrorists kidnap all the leaders of the G20 at the meeting. But don't worry, the US president frees herself, and she's going full Liam Neeson to free everyone and get revenge.

LOL completely unbelievable

What would instead happen with the US president that is in charge now: if you free me I will help you with all your requests and I will personally execute the hostages

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 20 points 2 days ago (7 children)

I've heard shows like Madam Secretary and The West Wing be considered, akin to Star Trek, "competence porn."

The idea, the fantasy, that the people making the critical decisions that affect so many people are consulting experts, weighing heavy costs, consulting the law, and are kept up at night because they care so deeply for making the best call they can so they don't let down all those who depend on them. These characters have been role models for leadership for generations at this point.

And here we are, in a complete fever dream of a failed state: With a convicted felon and failed reality show TV personality, his foreign billionaire handler, and a weak spineless, loud little dweeb we all forgot was even vice... burning the last vestiges of peace and goodwill all around themselves, handing us and our allies over in a competition with other fascists to be the world's worst enemies, screaming at world leaders, destroying the environment out of spite, and heck, shilling beans from the oval office. Because why not.

Who's close enough to this to do something about it? Where are the competent ones who will regain control of the bridge from these terrorists? Yeah, where's our "G20 president"?

Well, I just remembered, we need to support people like Governor Janet Mills of Maine , and empower anyone any everyone who will stand up against this bullying.

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[–] kn0wmad1c@programming.dev 39 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The restraint on Zelenskyy to not call him Krasnov to his face.

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[–] SolidShake@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

remember you guys. peace day 1! trump never lies

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[–] halferect@lemmy.world 38 points 2 days ago

Trump is such a piece of shit, zelensky showed so much restraint. I think I would have slapped that traitor into the next dimension

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