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[–] freebee@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)
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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (17 children)

The real problem is that Trump's supporters don't understand tariffs, and wouldn't believe the explanation anyway because to them it just sounds like Orange Man Bad.

When the US imposes a tariff on Canada, importers of Canadian goods pay the tariff to the US government. To recover that cost they raise the prices they charge American customers. So Americans end up paying the tariff. The only damage it does to Canada is that the tariff could discourage US importers from buying certain goods from Canada if they can get them somewhere else without paying a tariff. That happens in some cases, but in others Canada is already the cheapest (or only) source of a high-demand item, so Americans will just pay the higher prices - the way they're still paying jacked-up COVID prices for so many things, for example.

Millions of Americans, being too dumb or unwilling to grasp this, think these tariffs are Trump heroically saving them from the evils of foreigners who want to destroy their Freedom.

[–] imvii@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago

Millions of Americans, being too dumb or unwilling to grasp this

Reports from people who know him, Trump is one of these people. He clearly doesn't understand the process.

β€œI’ve been in the room when it’s been explained to him, and he doesn’t understand it, but he likes tariffs,” Bolton said.

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[–] Someone@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Ok it's starting to feel like a game now. Can we cause American hyperinflation by a targeted tariff feedback loop?

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 day ago

Or like the sort of thing a hostile foreign government might really want to have happen to the US...

Good thing we have agent Krasnov at the helm.

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[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Who's he talking about? Was there a gubernatorial election I missed in one of the 50 states because a governor resigned? Was it Desantis? Please be Desantis!

[–] cheerytext1981@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

He also wants his face on currency. The man is a menace

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[–] hmonkey@lemy.lol 6 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Fucking impeach this clown, what the fuck are people waiting for?

[–] JuxtaposedJaguar@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

Been there. Done that. Twice. Turns out Republicans don't care.

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[–] wirebeads@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Look forward to the day that orange shit stain is dead. Hopefully tonight.

Americans: Just imagine the White House is an elementary school…

[–] ZeroGravitas@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Mate, can you imagine president Vance? Careful what you wish for.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah.... This.

Don't get me wrong, if/when Trump dies, it'll be a day that I'm a bit happier, but if he dies during his presidency, I know he'll be immediately replaced by someone who is either just as bad or worse.

My only hope with Vance if he takes on the job, is that he's such a fucking bootlicker that hopefully he'll spend too much time sucking off corporate interests that he can't do too much more damage than Trump has already done.

It's possible, however unlikely, that someone will convince Vance to do the right thing for the wrong reasons (he definitely won't do it for the right reasons), because someone else told him too.... I have no illusions that he wouldn't come up with the idea himself. He's just not that bright in my mind.

[–] ryper@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

If Vance were president Republican spines would start to grow back. Trump's hold over Republicans is a major part of the problem.

[–] BlemboTheThird@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Vance might not be The Guy, but I disagree that removing Trump solves the problem at all. He's more like the most prominent symptom.

Before 2016, Trump in the minds of most Americans was some washed up reality show star from the 90s. He is, and has always been, an ugly, uncharismatic, racist piece of shit. If the conservative propaganda machine can propel this artificially colored, barely articulate moron to the top, they can propel just about anyone. The only caveat is that whoever they propel has to be willing to do anything, to destroy any international relationship, to flip flop at the drop of a hat, and to not ask questions outside of "how will this benefit me?"

Vance might be a selfish, uncharismatic idiot in his own right, but unlike Trump he does have two braincells to rub together. Fox, Newsmax, Rogan, and the like might not be willing to throw themselves behind that. But there's no shortage of vaguely remembered, self-absorbed celebrities who will be willing to take his place. Think President Oz, or heck, maybe Hulk Hogan would throw his hat in the ring.

Point is, as long as we have a populace that disrespects education and science, and that's completely unmotivated to participate in our gerrymandered and unrepresentative FPTP system, the propaganda machine will always churn out a shittier asshole next year. The worst of us will hand them the reigns, and Republicans will follow that asshole without question. Trump isn't as special a case as people want to believe. We've been on this trajectory for decades.

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[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl -5 points 1 day ago (4 children)

He is factually not the dumbest man on earth. We can criticize without discrediting ourselves with unnecessary hyperbole

[–] villasv@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 day ago

hyperbole obvious to any 5 year old isn't really reason to any discredit, take a chill pill

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