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They sell things that come in cups, or with napkins. Lots of people cycle/run/walk here instead of driving, seems pretty stupid.

Taking away the bins doesn't mean you don't produce rubbish....

Edit: I think there is still a bin IN the cafe, but most people eat/drink outside. Lots of people asking staff where the bins are. Still hypocritical I think though? (And still mildly infuriating to remove well used bins!)

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[–] foggy@lemmy.world 49 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (5 children)

That might sound backwards but it isn't

Squirrels and raccoons will rummage, and disperse trash. There isnt much you can do about that beyond 1. Harm wildlife or 2. Reduce trash.

Edit: Damn, this thread is full of people I would be fucking embarrassed to camp with. Where do y'all like to experience the outdoors so I can be sure to not cross your paths?

[–] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 32 points 7 hours ago (15 children)

Or 3, provide animal-proof garbage disposals.

[–] payhn@sopuli.xyz 8 points 7 hours ago

I can attest that people around me in the south talk about how they love nature but if opening the trash can requires more than 3 brain cells they will most likely just throw their in the back of their truck and know it will blow out down the road or drop it next to the trash can and be proud they are keeping some custodial staff employed

[–] miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 7 hours ago

Or
4. Continue to treat people as spoiled toddlers and hire servants to clean up after them.

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[–] zerakith@lemmy.ml 17 points 7 hours ago

I'll go out on a limb that Raccoons won't rummage here :)

I agree with the sentiment but if they have a cafe selling things in disposable packaging then the best thing they can do is provide bins to deal with it. Pretending they don't generate rubbish is just a false accounting trick.

[–] Nighed@feddit.uk 14 points 7 hours ago

No racoons here. The previous bins had spring loaded flaps to keep the animals out.

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[–] liv@lemmy.nz 19 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (6 children)

This has been happening in New Zealand for a while. The theory seems to be that bins attract more litter and are a hazard to wildlife.

I was sceptical at first but it actually seems to work.

Perturbs me that they are selling food though. Surely yhe food sellers should have bins for which they are responsible in their immediate vicinity.

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[–] lost_tortie@lemmy.world 39 points 7 hours ago

please clean up after yourself.

[–] Tempus_Fugit@midwest.social 25 points 7 hours ago (8 children)

Weird, when Japan does it everyone praises them. I guess us western societies are just too trashy to clean up after ourselves.

[–] Jimbabwe@lemmy.world 12 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

I came here to comment on Japan, haha. Almost everywhere you go, no trashcans and no trash! Their society is like a hive mind in a lot of ways, though. I’m not sure it’ll work with Rugged American Individualism®

Edit to add: Damn, I just realized OP is in England. Maybe they can make it work.

[–] insomniac_lemon@lemmy.cafe 7 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

I looked it up and they seem to still have them in train stations plus in areas where trash/recyclables is expected to be generated (convenience stores, vending machines, parks) so it seems like a bit of a stretch (also the reason for less trash cans being a 1995 sarin gas attack).

Even just the train station bit seems like an unfair comparison for places without any sort of public transportation (where people walked/biked from home). Yeah, I can see people being more likely to hold their trash if passing receptacles is part of their planned route.

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[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 13 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

This is basically ubiquitous on many public lands, specifically here in the US. The term is "carry in, carry out." Bins accumulate trash (obviously) which in turn is an attractant for rodents, bears, raccoons, etc. which causes its own problems. Wild animals should not be artificially fed by human trash. Trash can also be blown out of cans, or scattered by animals. Overall, especially for low traffic environments, the best plan is to have people take all their trash out with them.

TL;DR: Pack out your trash.

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[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 13 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

You can always take your trash with you instead of expecting someone else to take it for you. The culture of throwing shit away instead of reusing, and reducing, is so ubiquitous, that's the infuriating thing.

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[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 11 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Why can’t they have a dumpster with lid?

People are just going to litter if they didn’t plan ahead to bring a trash bag.

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