this post was submitted on 26 Mar 2025
2326 points (99.7% liked)

Technology

68066 readers
3753 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related news or articles.
  3. Be excellent to each other!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, this includes using AI responses and summaries. To ask if your bot can be added please contact a mod.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed
  10. Accounts 7 days and younger will have their posts automatically removed.

Approved Bots


founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Interest in LibreOffice, the open-source alternative to Microsoft Office, is on the rise, with weekly downloads of its software package close to 1 million a week. That’s the highest download number since 2023.

“We estimate around 200 million [LibreOffice] users, but it’s important to note that we respect users’ privacy and don’t track them, so we can’t say for sure,” said Mike Saunders, an open-source advocate and a deputy to the board of directors at The Document Foundation.

LibreOffice users typically want a straightforward interface, Saunders said. “They don’t want subscriptions, and they don’t want AI being ‘helpful’ by poking its nose into their work — it reminds them of Clippy from the bad old days,” he said.

There are genuine use cases for generative AI tools, but many users prefer to opt-in to it and choose when and where to enable it. “We have zero plans to put AI into LibreOffice. But we understand the value of some AI tools and are encouraging developers to create … extensions that use AI in a responsible way,” Saunders said.

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] vane@lemmy.world 291 points 5 days ago (30 children)

Yeah desktop apps era is back baby. Fuck you cloud.

[–] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 75 points 5 days ago (9 children)

Syncthing has been so helpful in making me move away from cloud based options. And to think only reason I found out about it and gave it a shot was because I was trying to figure out how to easily sync my non Steam game save files between my Desktop and my Steam Deck. It's been invaluable since then.

[–] baltakatei@sopuli.xyz 46 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Donate if you regularly use Syncthing. Help close the causal loop.

[–] thesystemisdown@lemmy.world 44 points 4 days ago (1 children)

LibreOffice too for that matter. Kick 'em a few bucks if you can spare it.

https://www.libreoffice.org/donate/

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (8 replies)
load more comments (29 replies)
[–] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 28 points 4 days ago (1 children)

European countries should adopt linux and these alternatives instead of paying for windows and Microsoft. Much more private too.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] hornedfiend@sopuli.xyz 13 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I managed to get my father in law to fully switch to libreoffice, which is in itself a great achievement, as he’s almost 70 and he used to be an msoffice user for most of his adult professional life.

Libreoffice is just great and Europe should start backing and using more open source, non greedy corporate backed projects.

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] 96VXb9ktTjFnRi@feddit.nl 12 points 3 days ago (2 children)

FOSS software will win eventually. It may take time, but if good FOSS software is being built by enthusiasts then a time will come where proprietary software fucks up. And when it does, FOSS is ready to take it's place. And as soon as FOSS has become a standard in some field, why would there ever be a need to go back to proprietary?

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

if good FOSS software is being built by enthusiasts

LibreOffice is forked long ago from the extremely corporate OpenOffice effort, which in turn originated from the non-open-source Star Office. Not all FOSS comes from enthusiasts.

[–] 96VXb9ktTjFnRi@feddit.nl 1 points 1 day ago

LibreOffice is forked long ago from the extremely corporate OpenOffice effort, which in turn originated from the non-open-source Star Office. Not all FOSS comes from enthusiasts.

That's a fair point. I would also be very much in favor of governments subsidizing certain FOSS projects. There's a lot of work to be done, and people certainly deserve to be paid for it too.

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 8 points 3 days ago

Maybe. I thought and fought for this from the 1990s on my own small ways with no luck and only to see the rise and rise of walled garden, proprietary, bullshit software.

The issue is end users have the prescience of a gold fish, i have zero solutions to that.

[–] Peffse@lemmy.world 151 points 5 days ago (12 children)

I'm afraid to find out how many people are still downloading OpenOffice, thinking it's the same software they heard about back in 2010.

[–] digger@lemmy.ca 62 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Is it not the same software they heard about in 2010?

[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 94 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It was discontinued in 2011. Anything that is out there today is outdated at best, and malicious at worst.

[–] Lojcs@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

.. so it is precisely the software they heard about in 2010

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (11 replies)
[–] takis@lemm.ee 123 points 4 days ago (11 children)

I must be one of them. In the last couple of weeks I'm transitioning my apps and services to open source and EU based. I switched from Windows to CachyOS, switched my emails, switched browser, degoogled my phone, deleted FB and X and many more.

It feels so refreshing and free.

load more comments (11 replies)
[–] Legom7@lemmy.world 39 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I have a job that involves working with spreadsheets. I have Librecalc at home and both Libre and MSOffice at work. I have also had a college course about using Excel specifically. Both really can do mostly the same things but because MS does everything in a specific (backwards) way, people trained on MS who are not otherwise "computer people" can't cope with needing to unlearn and relearn. So the end result is paraprofessionals are locked in.

[–] LordPassionFruit@lemm.ee 17 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I really enjoyed spreadsheets before becoming a programmer (I still enjoy them, I just spend less time on them) and basically self taught over the years using Google Sheets.

There are several really useful functions on sheets that simply do not exist in Excel, and there are others that work almost the same but not quite. Having to use Excel drives me insane sometimes because of how clunky it feels.

By contrast, using LibreCalc feels kinda how you'd expect an open source Google Sheets to feel? It's slightly clunkier, but it gets the job done and generally feels better to use than Excel

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] passenger@lemm.ee 51 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (5 children)

Sure, to avoid costs...

They really don't see the connection with the trade war, buy european movement, boycott america movement, trump presidency in general... Really? Or could it be the editor told them not to mention it?

[–] Apocalypteroid@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

As someone who has recently cancelled my Microsoft subscription and switched to libre office I can vouch that it was not the subscription cost that made me switch.

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] gitamar@feddit.org 49 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Don't forget to seed the torrents to help the servers. And donate if you can ✊🏻

load more comments (6 replies)
[–] M33@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 3 days ago

See it wasn't that hard:

  • Common sense ? ⛔ IDGAF
  • Freedom ? ⛔ IDGAF
  • Privacy ? ⛔ IDGAF
  • Subscription ? ✅ Let's crack this software or find something free instead
[–] MrSulu@lemmy.ml 19 points 4 days ago

Hopefully more of us make donations. Free is good, but it's nice to contribute even small amounts to your well used FOSS apps

[–] firepenny@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Besides the jank, you can set up libreoffice inside a docker container and server it over https. There you now have cheap-ass MS365.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works 66 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Nice. Maybe now Microsoft will respond by ~~offering non-subscription options~~ inventing a new proprietary industry-standard file format so their bloated ransomware remains mandatory.

load more comments (5 replies)
[–] sfu@lemm.ee 22 points 4 days ago (9 children)

Microsoft Office is adding in AI? Spreadsheets can take a lot of work to create, I can just imaging an AI tool going in the messing one little thing up, and it being near impossible to find the error. Or not even know your calculations aren't being done the way you want.

load more comments (9 replies)
[–] lumony@lemmings.world 25 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Is it just me, or do new office features seem kinda pointless or unnecessary?

I use libreoffice the same way I used microsoft office decades ago. Never really cared for 'advanced' or even 'intermediate' features because they are never necessary to what I'm doing.

I can't imagine that people who are more computer-illiterate than me getting significantly more involved in what should be simple and easy to use programs.

load more comments (5 replies)
[–] poopkins@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

Obligatory comment that endorses pirating software. We need to make sure this stereotype about Lemmy remains accurate.

[–] snek_boi@lemmy.ml 36 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If you're going to download it, try the torrent option! That way, you can give back to the community that gives you LibreOffice.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Sauvandu60@lemmy.ml 24 points 4 days ago

This is a great news! I hope more people would use open-source software like Libreoffice.

[–] JakobFel@retrolemmy.com 35 points 4 days ago

Love to see it. I haven't used MS Office in well over a decade at this point and I have no plans to go back. LibreOffice is fantastic, suits all my needs, doesn't pack itself with bloat and it respects my freedom and privacy. What more can I want from an office suite?

[–] SirFasy@lemmy.world 38 points 4 days ago

It doesn't surprise me, Microsoft is enshitifying everything they have.

[–] venotic@kbin.melroy.org 55 points 5 days ago (36 children)

Took them long enough.

Now how long will it take them to try Linux?

[–] FlihpFlorp@lemm.ee 49 points 5 days ago (13 children)

So here’s a single data point for you, in a good couple months (for money reasons) I was gonna switch over to Bazzite or another distro if it came preinstalled

So with a sample size of 1 we know 100% of people you’ve found are switching to linux

load more comments (13 replies)
load more comments (35 replies)
[–] gargle@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

LibreCalc and python for the win! I just love from bs4 import BeautifulSoup, import json, import re, import urllib.request.

[–] MunkysUnkEnz0@lemmy.world 49 points 5 days ago (5 children)

I'm glad to see foss Software taking off. In the past, we had to be a tech enthusiast to Realize it with an option. Now it's pretty well known.

The large tech companies didn't get greedy and try to be so gross with privacy settings. People wouldn't make the move. They only have themselves to blame.

If you're into music, there's a great open source synthesizer.

https://surge-synthesizer.github.io/

[–] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 40 points 5 days ago

The US becoming a questionable country and people realizing how almost every digital service and product is US based also ended up becoming a huge incentive to start seeking out alternatives instead putting all their eggs in one country. If it hadn't been for that I wouldn't have been making so many product shifts and seeking out foss alternatives or at the very least nonUS alternatives.

It's been very cool seeing lot of people making attempts to try out stuff like Linux too even if they don't stick with it.

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] RedFrank24@lemmy.world 32 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

The funny thing is you can still buy Office standalone but you have to actively go looking for it and Microsoft doesn't advertise it because 365 subscriptions make more money.

Microsoft doesn't want you buying standalone versions of software, but they still have to sell it because there's still a market for it.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] penpapernovel@lemmy.ca 13 points 4 days ago (2 children)

My biggest pet peeve is since it's a suite rather than separate programs, there's only one path for saving files that's saved. So you can't have Writer save to a different location from Calc automatically.

As someone with a lot of files and folders, and a hatred of having to click around too much, this annoys the shit out of me. But I don't think there's any way around it because of how the program was created. It's literally the one thing keeping me from switching.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 34 points 4 days ago (12 children)

Dropped the Word suite and used openoffice, then switched to libreoffice. Definitely a slightly clunkier feel to it, but avoiding yet more subscription, cloud based, internet connection needed, account needed software is becoming more and more important.

load more comments (12 replies)
[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 4 days ago (5 children)

It's not just the subscription they want to avoid. Office has been steadily enshitified to the point nobody I know likes using it anymore.

load more comments (5 replies)
[–] clot27@lemm.ee 24 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I replaced MS Office with libreoffice on my dad's PC and he didnt even noticed for months. Libreoffice is just better.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments
view more: next ›