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Not sure how many people subscribe to anything on Lemmy, but let's give it a try
Should be illegal.
this post was submitted on 27 Mar 2025
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No, I just canโt do this one, I used to do that but Apple is great at giving my money back, there was a mental health app located in Europe that stole not 200$ but 400$ from me during a period I could not afford it.
They made two mistakes after I had already deleted the app and unsubscribes from the trial.
Apple is great at giving me my money back and I trust them , it takes 15 minutes most of the time.
So does Google?
Deny the parasite profit
Honestly, always do this for subscriptions. Go to their website.
The company is losing money if you subscribe via the app. But being on the app store is critical for them.
30%. That's robbery, it should be illegal.
The EU introduce the Digital Markets Act that is supposed to force Malus and Gogle to open up their ecosystem. Gogle is fairly open but for some reason another app store hasn't made it big. Malus is just locked down as hell but now has AltStore in the EU.
Malus does however not abide completely by the DMA. Someone mentioned "notarisation" to me recently: they still have to approve apps on alternative stores, which the EU isn't happy about. No one knows how long it'll take for the EU to force Malus to play by the rules and get rid of notarisation though. Maybe with how the US is acting, it could speed that up, but my bet is on 2026.
Malus?
Latin word for apple tree, also means bad or evil. I think it should be malum (apple) instead, which also means bad or evil.
Why though?
Itโs like saying Crapple or Micro$oft, but pretentious, I guess.
Think a little. I know you can get it.
Ok loser.
Gogle is fairly open but for some reason another app store hasn't made it big
Samsung has their own app store which I presume does reasonably well in their ecosystem, and Amazon maintains their own app store for Kindle. F-Droid is also reasonably popular with the open source and privacy focused crowd.
Samsung has their own ecosystem and their appstore is installed by default (power of defaults). Amazon is actually shutting down their appstore, so much for popularity.
Do you know any other app store that normal people actually install on their phone to get paid apps?
It pays for the development of system apis, update infrastructure, software deployment infrastructure, software development sdks and toolkits, among a bunch of other very expensive to maintain infrastructure. There's the argument to be made to force them to allow competition, but I don't think you can call it robbery from an informed 10000 foot view because everything they provide is extremely expensive and extensively technical to host/construct on your own.
Which doesn't justify a cut of a 30%. I'm not saying they shouldn't charge anything, but this is at usurious levels.
I don't believe you can say that without adequately providing evidence and financial breakdowns. Not saying you're wrong, but given that developers even in the EU where alternative app markets are allowed still publish to the apple app store, I think that it's likely more fair than you realize. The cost to do all of what they provide for a $100/yr dev license + 30% pro-bono is immense. Even the least used applications with the smallest budgets receive state of the art infrastructure, toolkits, and security review as well as a bevy of other apple provided resources. It's the same for other marketplaces as well. Steam for example provides marketing, development guidance, server hosting, and a wide variety of other non-trivial non-free to provide services for their share of the cut.
It would be fine IF iOS allowed other app stores to compete with their own. This is why it's fine when steam does it, because the game developers can always go to GOG or Epic or itch if they want
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Get a Fairphone. Buy European.
Fairphone 5 on CalyxOS works great.
Fairphone 5 on /e/os checking in. Works great as well
Fairphone 5 on Fairphone OS looking for alternative OSes. Do you guys use NFC payments, and apps with play protect, do they work well?
I have 3 bank apps, 2 of them work great (through Aurora store), 1 refuses to let me login.
The 2 that do work, I can use NFC payments in them and everything else works. Haven't tried the Google Pay app, but I wouldn't expect it to work (though you can try).
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