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Weird, guy who breaks laws with impunity doesn't care about laws.
When Donald Trump’s former chief strategist Steve Bannon said “I’m a firm believer that President Trump will run and win again in 2028,” last week, it should have been a surprise, but wasn’t. “We’re working on it. … We’ll see what the definition of term limit is,”the dishevelled Bannon told NewsNation. It wasn’t the first time he had mentioned it either. The president’s adviser, who went to prison for refusing to testify before a congressional committee about the 6 January insurrection, suggested it in December. Then, he argued that Trump could circumvent the 22nd amendment, which codifies the two-term limit, because the word “consecutive” is not in the text of the document.
Trump has been making his feelings clear too. Shortly after his election victory last November, the president told congressional Republicans: “I suspect I won’t be running again unless you say, ‘He’s so good we’ve got to figure something else out’.”
Then, in January, during the annual House Republican retreat in Florida, he joked with speaker Mike Johnson: “Am I allowed to run again, Mike?” In February, he asked supporters at the White House: “Should I run again? You tell me.” Offhand musings about a third term in office sound less like bluster and more like a blueprint.
If we’re sharing articles can we make the effort to add a couple relevant paragraphs under the headline? Otherwise the discussion ends up being about the headline and often innaccurate.
No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice
You’d think that the absence of the word “consecutive” and the phrase “no… more than twice” would mean quite clearly that it’s two terms period, not one, plus two consecutive terms.
Unless, of course, these fuckheads are arguing that consecutive terms count as one.
Fuck.
Ill try to do that but... People should also read the article before before impulse commenting.
As someone who’se shared hundreds of articles on reddit then lemmy.
Good luck getting more than 1% to read the article. People want headlines, scrollable information bits that they can instinctively react on.
That’s why paragraphs under are useful. Makes people atleast read those before commenting a gut reaction to an oversimplified headline.
Obama would kick his ass
If I understand correctly, the magoffs like Bannon want to craft it to exclude Obama (and Bill Clinton and W) but include donvict.
There is a dictatorship happening to the south. Professors are leaving Yale University for the University of Toronto. For God’s sake, get out and vote in Canada in our upcoming election. Danielle Smith is blatantly snuggling up with MAGA. And PP keeps changing his ideologies with the political wind. Save our sovereignty.
Yes, but if Trump refuses to leave office then he will need some serious guards. My understanding of the Constitution is that he becomes a domestic threat at that point and "fighting him" is technically legal ... and required by anyone that took an oath to defend the Constitution.
Technically he's barred from office per the 14th amendment.
Technically is great until it's ignored.
The people who wrote the 14th amendmend fucked up. They did not specify how the disqualification clause is supposed to be invoked.
I mean, how are we suppose to invoke that?
States? If so, red states could just ban democrats by abusing the disqualification clause.
Conviction in courts? Well, trump never got convicted for treason/sedition. States convictionss of fraud isn't disqualifying.
Simple Majority in congress? Well, again, a unified congress can just use it to disqualify the other party.
Supermajority? Well, that would never happen.
Supreme court? Well... look at the composition of the court
So... yea... somebody fucked up.
Blame the authors of the 14th amendment.
It is impossible to write an eternal constitution. Believing that is the biggest flaw of the American mindset.
I'm pretty sure the Founders were under the impression that we'd rewrite the Constitution periodically when we discovered loopholes or other new problems they didn't foresee.
You mean like how every other country handles their constitution? That's crazy talk.
He's already a domestic threat, he doesn't care about the Constitution or laws
The constitution means whatever the guy with the biggest guns says it means.
I first took that oath 20 years ago. If orange idiot refuses to leave, I will be exercising my constitutional legal actions.
Why? Because no matter how much the unhinged right, many "centrists", and some of the leftists and a lot of the corporate media mocked those among the Democrats that said democracy is at risk....it is.
At risk? It's dead no matter what party. It's time to start rebuilding.
God, I wish that kid didn't miss.
So do I, but this problem is much bigger than one man. He could not do what he's doing without support from many rich donors and his party (which in turn relies on the support of the 30% of the country that reliably votes for them). Trump and many of his voters may be idiots but most of those other people are not, at least not in the intellectual sense of the word. They are making a calculated choice to enable fascism because they think it's better for them personally than democracy. That belief and it's associated threat to our country isn't going away when Trump dies. In fact, it might get much worse if they can find someone who can advance that agenda without being a bumbling fool most of the time.
Thankfully the French created a device that is perfect for solving such issues, we just require the societal will to do so.
Hitler survived 30+ attempts, just sayin'... 🤷♂️
People who run this simulation really be giving the villains plot armor 😭
I'm told we really shouldn't wish death on anybody... so I really wish he had gotten a bullet in his brain and been a vegetable hooked up to life support machines for many, many years.
I don't support the death penalty because those individuals are no threat to society, many of them are innocent, and the government shouldn't have that kind of power when it's unnecessary.
None of that applies. Also, I don't wish him dead. I just want him gone. The method of his removal is just a secondary concern.
I don't think they're going to let a little thing like the laws get in the way of a good time.
How about a national militia of tesla burners?
I remember the Russian military recruitment offices burning these past years, and their railroads getting sabotaged.
The western press proudly stated "this is what happens when you don't allow people to protest, they turn to sabotage".
But I guess this administration missed the memo.
If Trump was elected in the 80s, he wouldn't be alive long enough to change the name plate of the oval office desk. We're living through such a wild time in history.
Just remember, if his new administration has proven anything, it is that the difference between legal and illegal in the American political system is mostly down to everyone being willing to go along with that law. There is very little actual teeth behind a lot of it at the high up federal level.
So it might be unconstitutional for him to run again, but who is actually going stop him? He has more guns and more sycophants than the court system.
Yesterday, former President Donald Trump told a group of supporters that they won’t have to vote again if they elect him to the presidency. “You won’t have to do it anymore,” Trump said at the Turning Point Believers’ Summit in Florida. “It’ll be fixed; it’ll be fine; you won’t have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians.” - The Atlantic, July '24
'When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time.' - Maya Angelou
I assume Schumer will agree to this because we wouldn’t want deny the American people a choice. I wish the democrats lived in reality.
Conservative don't like bypassing term limit. Conservative subreddit are already not happy. So yep it's matter of time some maga nut bag will revolt against him.
Conservatives WILL like it when their media tells them how to justify/spin it.
Last I checked werent the mods going full gestapo and banning anyone who questioned trump ? That sub really is a shithole.
One already tried to shoot him.
The comments seem to be missing the fact that elections are state run, so if he is allowed to run a third time, it won't be him that broke the law it will be the states and their reps.
No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this Article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this Article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this Article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.
This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within seven years from the date of its submission to the States by the Congress.
Supreme court:
Amendment schmamendment.
To make this explicit, the law is what Trump and his merry band of miscreants say it is, unless we're willing to step up as a country and say 'No it isn't' and back those words up with action, if needed. All the words in the Constitution are is ink on a piece of paper, unless we're willing to stand and fight for them.
I remember when Republicans used to say things like "if you threaten my consitumitutional rights I will fight you to the end"
Canuck here. When is the Civil War kicking off? I'm sure they'll be a fair number of Canadians who will come and help remove him from office. We'll for sure send some of our highly trained Canadian Geese to assist lol
You mean The Third Reich ?
Remember: The Nazis never officially abolished the democratic Weimar constitution. They just hollowed it out until it was completely ineffectual
Trump already looks 20 years older 2 months into his second presidency. Look at pictures of him yesterday. How on earth would he even run for a third term, physically I mean? He will be the oldest president EVER by the time his term ends. 2 Years older than Biden when he left. A third term would serve no one but the actual rulers Peter Thiel and Musk behind him....oh.