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The New Civil Liberties Alliance filed a lawsuit accusing Trump of illegally imposing tariffs on Chinese imports using emergency powers under the 1977 IEEPA.

The conservative legal group argues only Congress can levy tariffs and claims Trump's actions violate the Constitution’s separation of powers.

The complaint says Trump’s justification—Chinese opioids and the trade deficit—fails to meet the legal standard of necessity.

NCLA seeks a court order to block the tariffs, stating the IEEPA does not authorize taxes and Trump's executive orders bypass required congressional procedures.

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[–] Aeri@lemmy.world 9 points 4 hours ago

Really? Donald "Unconstitutional Exercise of Legislative Power" Trump committed an unconstitutional exercise of legislative power? Say it aint so.

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago

Conservatives singing.

Suddenly I see (suddenly I see) Why the hell it means so much to me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AEoUa0Hlso

My brain has way too many cross connections.

[–] HonorableScythe@lemm.ee 5 points 4 hours ago
[–] Shootingstarrz17@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Hypocrites... Only when it affects them...

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 61 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

They get hit in the pocketbook and suddenly now the Constitution matters.

[–] floppybutton@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 9 hours ago

Yes, but also to sue one must be able to prove injury. I don't know much about this group, but it is possible they hadn't been injured yet. Or that, knowing this was coming, they built their case months ago and have been waiting until this drops to do anything.

Not saying they're at all worthy of trust, anyone on that side of the aisle isn't, but the case would be tossed immediately if they sued before he took this action.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 80 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

And they're absolutely correct. Unfortunately the courts have always deferred to the other branches on the definition of "national emergency". Congress is supposed to be the ones stopping this and they've been neutered by Trump.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 6 points 4 hours ago

No they haven't. They freely and willfully capitulate.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 37 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

Well, one half of Congress has. The Senate actually voted to strike down the declared state of emergency in regard to the tariffs on Canada, but the House is refusing to take up the vote on their side.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 24 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

He only needs half. And the crazies in the house would never impeach him which is frankly warranted at this point already. Trump's reckless disregard for the rules, norms, and history of the United States is clearly pathological.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago

The Republican majority in the House isn't that big. They only need a few to flip, and the reactions to this round of tarrifs are cataclysmic so far.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 10 points 12 hours ago

Only barely, with 4 known Senate Trump skeptics:

Sens. Susan Collins (Maine), Mitch McConnell (Ky.) Lisa Murkowski (Alaska) and Rand Paul (Ky.)...

https://www.axios.com/2025/04/02/senate-repeal-trump-tariffs-canada

[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 53 points 12 hours ago (5 children)

So just to make sure I got it right. Gutting federal agencies from the inside out to the point of dysfunction, and firing employees and government watchdogs without cause. Depriving legal immigrants their due process and forcefully kidnap people in broad daylight. These things are A-Okay.

But fuck with the money, and now you're suddenly going too far.

[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago

That’s where conservatives really don’t like the be fucked with. He’s so screwed and I’m so glad he is.

[–] wellheh@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 hours ago

Conservatives generally don't care until it affects them personally. They lack this fundamental thing called empathy.

[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

It’s always about the money so let’s hope we get a regime change soon

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 31 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Welcome to the USA, where the dollar is in charge.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 14 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

You ... know why rome fell?

(It was money)

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

And they pissed off their northern neighbours a bit too much.

[–] klu9@lemmy.ca 14 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Conservatives who are actually conservative??? Not radical lunatic rightists who do or say whatever Trump wants?

I didn't realize any were left.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 8 points 10 hours ago

Don't get too excited. They're only mad because Trump fucked with the money.

[–] Nosavingthrow@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

What you're failing to understand is that hierarchy is the core of conservatism. A guy at the top that everyone listens to IS conservative. Opposing Trump is them rejecting conservatism, if only momentarily.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 15 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Are you saying that there shouldn’t be any taxation without representation? Wild.

[–] monarch@preferred.social 4 points 4 hours ago

Which is why anyone under 18s income should be tax free. If you want to bring back child labour at least make it consistent.

[–] Neverclear@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 12 hours ago

Not all these are applicable, but too many are true:

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.

He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.

He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.

He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:

For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:

For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:

For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:

For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:

For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:

For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.

He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.

He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.

He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.

He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

[–] oxjox@lemmy.ml 10 points 13 hours ago

This Mother Jones article really made things more clear.

Trump, a president who rules like a mob boss while claiming vast new powers, is transforming the government into a tool of reward and punishment.

[–] Veedem@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago

You know it’s something when even conservatives are starting to push back.

[–] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 8 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

WHO is going to hold him accountable???

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

He defunded the WHO.