Technology

The current US trade war is the perfect opportunity for some other country or countries to "right-size" their IP laws.

Hollywood wanted "lifetime plus 900 years" or whatever. So, whenever the US negotiated a trade deal it said "you only get tariff-free access to our markets if you give Hollywood lifetime plus 900 years in your country too."

With section 1201 of the DMCA this also meant that other countries had to accept that you could only repair your John Deere tractor if you paid Deere for the privilege. Or that HP could prevent you from using any ink but theirs in your printer, allowing them to make printer ink the most expensive liquid on the planet.

If the US is no longer abiding by the terms of their trade agreements, other countries should no longer honor these absurd IP treaties.

Hold on hold on. Don't mention a damn thing

I’m cool with it. I think we should require almost everything to be public domain. But I think those personally contributing to the public domain should be recognized, and no one should be allowed to get rich off of it.

This is the only thing he's ever done or said that I agree with, even though his real intentions are obvious. We really do need a complete re-writing of IP law, but not from Elon.

The libertarians want everything for free. Interesting.

Dorsey got fired from his own company by the board for incompetence.

Musk is out to delete all laws that don't benefit him, and replace them with harsh private rules that are not accountable to the people.

Well a billionaire commanded we argue about copyright law. I guess we need to expend our energy and build enough momentum so that Musk can grab more power during the turmoil.

Trumpers did their part by arguing about free speech. Time to tap into our issues with IP laws and help Musk too!

As much as I also would like IP law to die, I do not think that these two saying such means much.

Jack Dorsey is not in government and worth a 100th of what Musk is worth. And Elon Musk is evil and retarded.

Now that it interferes with me I'm against it. As soon as it's absence causes me any grief I'll be for it again.

Can't disagree here, this would be great

These people are threats to our actual lives.

Avoiding tax loopholes and fair taxation for billionnaires could also be considered. Just saying. Otherwise I think that the idea of deleting all IP laws is just wishful (and naive) thinking, assuming people would cooperate and build on each other’s inventions/creations.

Given the state the world is currently in, I don’t see that happening soon.

A real nuisance for all those AI datasets, huh?

Disney has entered the chat

Disney vs Musk when?

If Elon agrees with anything… run.

That's probably better than what we have now, but still very short of ideal. Here's my proposition:

• keep trademark law as-is
• cut patents to 5-7 years, with a one-time extension if the holder can demonstrate need
• cut copyright to 14 years (original 1790 Copyright Act duration), with a one-time explicit extension, approved based on need
• have existing patents and copyright expire at their original term, the above (for works patented/copyrighted within the term), or half the above (for works copyrighted outside the term), whichever is shorter

That would solve most of the problems while keeping the vast majority of the benefits.

Hard yes. Glad to see there's at least one thing we are aligned on.