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DOGE is knitting together immigration databases from across DHS and uploading data from outside agencies including the Social Security Administration, as well as voting records, sources say. This, experts tell WIRED, could create a system that could later be searched to identify and surveil immigrants.

The scale at which DOGE is seeking to interconnect data, including sensitive biometric data, has never been done before, raising alarms with experts who fear it may lead to disastrous privacy violations for citizens, certified foreign workers, and undocumented immigrants.

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[–] Evilcoleslaw@lemmy.world 34 points 3 days ago

These people aren't actually this stupid. They know illegal immigrants don't vote. They know their interactions with social security are largely limited to paying in and never getting anything out. They know they don't actually qualify for Medicare or Medicaid. No, the database is to surveil and track permanent residents and citizens.

[–] WhatsHerBucket@lemmy.world 41 points 3 days ago

could create a system that could later be searched to identify and surveil ~~immigrants~~ anyone.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

What makes you think it will just be used on immigrants?

[–] lemmie689@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 3 days ago
[–] BeNotAfraid@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

This is what AI is for. This is why Meta, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple and Google have been collecting all of our data for so long. The embedded AI on your devices and Android Security Core Read your devices, constantly. Copilot records everything you do on your computer. All of them are accessible from their centralised AI. AI is the ultimate secret police, they just have to ask, "Is anyone voicing dissent?" Big tech has been employing fewer and fewer people thanks to AI. This is an attempt by ALL of them, not just Musk, to cull the weak from society by eliminating vaccines and social security. RFK is to pave the way for forced sterilisation, hence his awful speech about autism. It's all the plan. We exist in a post-capitalist world. Capital used to be the output, whether that’s labour, or a trade, or a craft that’s what capital is. Now, we are the capital. Google is a search engine that made billions selling your private data to amazon, whose effect on the global economy has massively accelerated climate change. Google maps records your phone calls, they copy and scan everything from your phone. Every free online pdf converter, every image editor rips the binaries from your computer, sometimes for years afterwards by virtue of cookies.

Most of all computing and all of the resulting data is collected in the browser. Every app on your phone, generates data points it sells to Google, Amazon Web Services, Meta and all of big tech. The clearnet has shrunk drastically to only a handful of companies. They use this data to profile us, socially engineer us. Your thoughts and opinions are not your own, they are what you have been trained to believe. Advertisers and sellers pay rent to Google, AWS and meta to remain on their platforms so that they have access to us. The rich don’t need us to spend anymore. When you are worth more than the GDP of entire continents, when less than 3000 people have that wealth, they seize control to install themselves as our rulers. Why do you think Jeff Bezos, Zuckerberg and Alphabet have said nothing despite reportedly losing “billions.” Because when money becomes meaningless, you go mad with the power to use it to control people and reshape the world into what you want. That is why being a Billionaire is a mental illness, because when you have access to literally everything and anything at anytime you want. You relate to no one, because they exist to please you and you value nothing, because you struggle for nothing. The people who want you to spend aren’t the rich, they’re the farmers that rent the land from the lords that own it. Who will never need money again.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It feels like it is a distraction from tightening the screws on everyone. "Look over there! Illegal immigrants!"

[–] lupusblackfur@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

So, they're doing everything possible to de-anonymize the data in "all these" DBases by "knitting" them together (assuming it was actually anonymized to begin with)...

What could possibly go wrong?? How many different ways does this give Elonazi unfettered and comprehensive information on every single person in the US???

The world's largest data breach continues apace.

🙄 🤡 🖕 🖕

[–] zib@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Sure would be a shame if this database was not properly secured and some anonymous internet user happened to login and mess with the data.

[–] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

No fucking shit they are. If you don't understand this, you are fundamentally missing a core part of the relationship between technology and the state. All technology is eventually used by the state against you

[–] Monument@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 3 days ago

I bear the same name as my father and his father. They both died when I was a young - over 30 years ago. I sometimes still get texts asking me if I’d like to “sell my house at [the address of my grandfather’s house that sold when he died in 1989].”

If the best that data miners can do is text me because they think I’m a 100+ year-old, then Musk’s sloppy efforts are going to be even worse.
Waiting for the day I get arrested for not having paid my own child support.

[–] veroxii@aussie.zone 4 points 3 days ago

Look, I'm not approving of this, but I'm surprised that various government databases aren't already cross referenced and linked? I always assumed they were... By the NSA or someone.

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago

is IBM handling the hardware side of it?

[–] ModestCrab@lemmy.wtf 4 points 3 days ago

Sounds like a lawsuit by concerned citizens asking for data deletion. Don’t databases need to be approved by legislature?

[–] doctortofu@reddthat.com 3 points 3 days ago

"Fuck off you tired, you poor, You huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to El Salvador, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

[–] Luouth@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Master database for their master race master plan