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Mullvad leta vs 4get (lemm.ee)
submitted 2 days ago by lopar49@lemm.ee to c/degoogle@lemmy.ml
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This is pretty much a. Follow up to my post yesterday and was wondering which search engine to use, I’m leaning stlightly towards mullvad as it is a more reputable and they get their results exclusively from braves index but 4get is open source and has an official instance.

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[–] anothermember@feddit.uk 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The fact that it uses Brave's index is partly what puts me off using Mullvad Leta.

[–] lopar49@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How come? You can swap to google, but google is bad with censorship. I would have said braves index is the best independent index (other than google). Main reason I won’t use brave is it not being open source search engine. With this I get best of both worlds.

[–] anothermember@feddit.uk 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well I'm not a fan of Brave or Google as companies for individual reasons, look up about Brave's CEO for example.

I prefer to use an aggregator so at the moment I'm using searxng; the main downside I've found is that instances tend to get blocked from indexes eventually so you do have to move around a bit.

[–] lopar49@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

But this isn’t using brave?

[–] anothermember@feddit.uk 1 points 2 days ago

I mean I would think twice about using them as a single source for search, the same as I would think twice about using Google as a single source. That's why I prefer to use an aggregator.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Either is pretty good. If you're looking for more diverse options I'd recommend 4get or a half decent Whoogle or SearxNG instance.

But you're right that you do have to trust the person or group running it, and I think Mullvad has the upper hand there. It's big enough to attract a crowd, and its caching means the results are extra generic too.

If you're looking just for Google results, Startpage is... Fine, I think.

Running a VPN makes any of these options much better.

[–] lopar49@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

I thought whoogle shutdown?

[–] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

4get has more features and supports more indexes.

[–] lopar49@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago

I get that but I’m honestly not that fussed about features or index’s 99 times out of 100 my search is just a simple one to find a specific website or news article

[–] mybuttnolie@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Used leta for a short period, but it was down annoyingly often

[–] lopar49@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Was this during beta?

[–] mybuttnolie@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago

Probably, it was like a month ago

[–] b000urns@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago

Give Kagi a look -- it's not free though. My free trial has ended but I'm considering shelling out for it.