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AI software (lemmy.world)

submitted 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) by xpostml10@lemmings.world to c/memes@lemmy.world

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[–] synae@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

This format implies those things are being hidden, but in fact are usually entirely missing

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 3 points 2 hours ago

It stored passwords in a csv what do you mean I was hacked?!

[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

I would be worried about maintainability as well if the person has no or very limited engineering experience. The first cut implementation of something is in my experience the easiest and most fun part!

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

This man codes. Greetings fellow developer!

[+] vzq@lemmy.world -18 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, have you seen “professionally developed software” up close?

At least the AI slop is improving.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 19 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Well thats quite easy to say is it? Most professionally developed software is decades old, when standards and patterns were different. So only greenfield developed software may measure up to your ideas of good software.

And AI can only "improve" because of human created software, otherwise it would gobble itself up (Model Collapse).

[–] vzq@lemmy.world 0 points 58 minutes ago (1 children)

I was being deliberately combative, but there’s a kernel of truth. Our discipline had been at it for decades and we have no idea how to write maintainable, secure, usable software. Most of the things we write are neither of those things, despite our very best efforts. As an engineering discipline, we failed miserably.

That said, AI is definitely not going to improve things. It’s going to make things worse. Much much worse.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 2 points 46 minutes ago

What? Who are we in this case? Because we as a community do know how to. The question is does our Stakeholders know that it may cost more and do they even care?

So it circles back to the meme. Does the vibe coder care if the AI Slop is maintainable, safe and secure? Or does they even know how to spot it?

[–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 6 hours ago

Not to mention it will not just gobble up itself now, but also all the bad code on the internet.

If you ask ChatGPT or Codestral how to safe a file in memory it will in almost all cases save those data chunks you're reading from somewhere in a list and suggest appending every chunk to that list.

Yeah sure you can do that instead of using io.bytesIO() (probably, until weird things happen), but what the fuck. And that's Python, literally the language those models are supposed to excel in.