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[–] qevlarr@lemmy.world 8 points 10 hours ago

Germany is backsliding particularly hard with their support of Israel meaning heavy crackdowns on peaceful demonstrations. It's shameful

[–] SunshineJogger@feddit.org 48 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The problem with this is on who exactly decides long term on which crimes qualify.

Once established it's simply a matter of extending the list of crimes to encompass whomever they want

[–] Steve@startrek.website 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Jaywalking is now a felony

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 21 points 1 day ago

Jaywalking is a fake crime made up by car company lobbies to criminalize anything being on the road that isn't a car.

Bitch ass car peddlers trying to criminalize my natural way of moving...

[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 61 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Hey world don't get any ideas from trump, his ideas are all bad and he is a bad person.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 5 points 11 hours ago

At least for Germany the legal basis was already laid last year when the "progressive" government of social democrats (SPD), Greens and (neo-)liberals (FDP) passed a revamped citizenship law. They allow for dual citizenship but also passed that you can loose your citizenship if you don't become stateless.

Then multiple states made a requirement that you need to sign a paper in your application process, where you say that you agree in "Israels right to exist". The caveat is that this term is nonsensical in a legal sense (there simply is no codification of a "right of existence" for states) and deliberately ambiguous in a political sense. (In which territory, with which government, with which people? Is calling the current government fascist an attack on the state itself already?)

So whenever a citizen speaks up against actions of the state of Israel, goes to a demonstration, likes the wrong social media post... German authorities could revoke the citizenship based on saying he lied on his application. This does not require a criminal conviction and is much more difficult to challenge as "lying" on your application is a sufficient formal reason. IIRC the law isn't even limited to dual citizens but it is enough if the person would not become stateless if Germany revokes their citizenship. This is for instance the case for people who are claimed as citizens by Iran, as Iran does not recognize people renouncing their citizenship.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 51 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The plans, hatched by Sweden’s rightwing government with support of its far-right backers, made waves around the world.

This one's a European homebrew.

[–] yoshman@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Proof you need to thoroughly play test house rules before having a larger rollout.

I mean if you think about it all of human history has been A-B testing different societal feature sets in different regions.

[–] sommerset@thelemmy.club 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Do you guys realize - if I get a speeding ticket or accidentally check a voting checkmark at the DMV - im may no longer be eligible for US citizenship.
fucking speeding ticket

[–] match@pawb.social 13 points 1 day ago

You mean that thing that the police get to issue basically at-will to whomever they dislike?

[–] ilmagico@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Is that hypothetical or are you saying that right now, people are being denied us citizenship if they have a speeding ticket? Cause I was pretty sure anything minor like that pretty much wouldn't count, not sure if things have changed

[–] azimir@lemmy.ml 12 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Things have changed. One person lost a green card because they got a "too many fish" citation while not fishing, but being with a group of people who were fishing.

One student had their visa revoked by the US because they were the victim of domestic violence. It's batshit insane what they current administration is doing.

[–] ilmagico@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

Good to know