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Now I understand why at each windows 11 update, they introduce more bugs than ever

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[–] chilicheeselies@lemmy.world 25 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

Stole it as if I wrote it

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 24 points 6 days ago

"30% of my pants is pooped"

[–] TwinTitans@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago

Yeah, I can tell every time I have to use that dinosaur of an OS.

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

Satya Nadella has given an evasive answer there and both Zuckerberg and the journalists have been taken in.

It is common in programming languages that have a lot of boilerplate to use code generation, where you take some information about data and generate code automatically, like code that translates data between formats (for example reading and writing xml for saving to disk or json to send over the network). Being very routine to write and easy to deduce logically from other information, this process has been automated for years and years, long before AI existed.

Microsoft's flagship software such as operating systems, office software, is unbelievably vast and complex, far beyond the complexity of most business software, and has been developed over decades. They absolutely have not replaced 30% of their code since the very recent advent of useful AI. I can believe that 30% of it is automatically generated, but not by AI.

[–] Teknikal@eviltoast.org 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Windows is 95 percent pure bloat now imo, an os just needs to handle my hardware and launch my programs anything else is just eating my resources.

[–] misteryscience@lemm.ee 2 points 6 days ago

I don’t need any assistance from anything while my phasers and quantums aren’t doing anything. I don’t need AI doing anything when I finally get the proper setup for crashing a Tomcat into a big old mountain that only a fool would miss. I don’t need any bloat while I’m ripping off an old cartoon character for a D&D campaign.

[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

Wonder how much of Windows 10 was written by Stack Exchange?

[–] tehn00bi@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] bhamlin@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

If you count all of my contributions, 0%.

None of my contributions have been included. I am a terrible programmer.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

And its all Teams.

[–] spicehoarder@lemm.ee 5 points 6 days ago

Are they including stuff written by intellisence and boiler plate for legacy code?

[–] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 2 points 6 days ago

Does that mean that Microsoft shares are gonna crash?

[–] krimson@lemmy.world 379 points 1 week ago (11 children)

Horseshit.

The current state of code generated by AI is sketchy at best. I often get plain wrong answers because the model tries to derive. It comes up with calls to functions and properties that just do not exist.

"You are right, I made a mistake. Here is a better answer." Continues to give wrong answers.

Apart from that, apps that are glued together from AI generated code are not maintainable at all. What if there is a bug somewhere and you so not comprehend what is actually happening? Ask AI to fix it? Yeah good luck with that.

I do use AI for simple questions, and it works fairly well for that, but this claim by MS is just marketing bullshit.

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 6 days ago

I do use AI for simple questions, and it works fairly well for that, but this claim by MS is just marketing bullshit.

This is my experience. It can be useful for simple things that used to be found with a web search before AI slop broke things. For example, I was having trouble getting a simple CGO program for a POC to communicate with the main Go process. This should have been solvable easily with documentation but the CGO docs are pretty bad and sample code was near impossible to find due to AI slop in the search results. GPT was able to provide the needed sample code to unblock me.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 118 points 1 week ago (3 children)

This ^

"20%-30% of code inside the company’s repositories"

Now, if they had said "20%-30% of code written in the past 6 months..." I might buy that.

The repositories are going to have all the current codebase, likely going back years now. AI generated code is barely viable at this point and really only pretty recently.

No way 1/3rd of all current codebase is AI.

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 54 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Even 20% of new code would be a stretch unless they count every first iteration of code written by AI that needs to be replaced by a human later because it was plain wrong.

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[–] IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 159 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

He used the words "written by software". This is ambiguous and doesn't mean AI, for example, using annotations for variables and generating the getters and setters would count. Right click and create function body for interface function definitions also.

They're exaggerating to pretend their AI is more useful than it is.

[–] MoonRaven@feddit.nl 46 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Intellisense in visual studio has also been really good for over a decade. Which is technically also written by software and not me.

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[–] WhatSay@slrpnk.net 86 points 1 week ago (24 children)

So the CEO is trying to tell investors that they are saving money by not paying employees. But to me it sounds more like: we are letting our sub-par products continue to enshitify, and any other company using AI to program will be equal competition.

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[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 63 points 1 week ago

That’s… not something to be proud of.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 53 points 1 week ago

Power move by the zucc by first asking how much genai is used at Microsoft then refusing to answer his own question at Facebook 😂

[–] daddycool@lemmy.world 50 points 1 week ago

Well, that explains Windows 11.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago (2 children)

this makes way more sense than hundreds of shitty devs.

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[–] megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 40 points 1 week ago (13 children)

I bet they’re counting code written while someone had an AI plugin installed as “written by AI” and I bet that accounts for almost all of that 30%. On top of that, I’m betting that they made it mandatory to have such a plug in, and the other 70% is just code written before they mandated this.

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[–] joelfromaus@aussie.zone 37 points 1 week ago (6 children)

This is my own experience but the past few years Windows has been extremely dependable for me and then in the last few months the updates they’ve have been terrible. I’ve seen more blue screens recently than I have in a lot of years.

All this to say that if it is 30% AI code being used then it’s very telling!

[–] ano_ba_to@sopuli.xyz 3 points 6 days ago

I don't remember in my 2 decades of working my work machine causing me to lose work due to a Windows update. In the last year, it happened to me 3 times. One was due to Crowdstrike. The latest update also recently broke my remote setup. Not completely their fault but still a crappy time. The one other time was due to an update (must've been the forced win11 one) killing the wifi and then Windows hiding any options to fix it, a bug from Windows 10.

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[–] MeaanBeaan@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Everybody saying this is why their products are shit are really confusing me. It's not like Microsoft just started being terrible. They've been terrible for a real long time. Way before AI was a thing. This is just a symptom of Microsoft's awfulness not a reason for it.

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