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[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 19 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

If you make the 1st Amendment illegal, the rest of the Constitution cannot be far behind.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 6 points 1 hour ago

if? people have already been blackbagged for their speech. this is just encoding something already in effect.

[–] Charlxmagne@lemmy.world 15 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

How tf can u ban a boycott, how is that even possible let alone provable 🤦 Politics aside if I js don't like a brand that endorses or has ties to Israel would I then be subject to charges. How u trynna force people to buy from certain companies, what if I was bruk, would I be breaking the law? 🤡

[–] DoubleSpace@lemm.ee 2 points 17 minutes ago (1 children)

This will probably be used to target protestors and organizers of political movements.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 1 points 8 minutes ago (1 children)

Yeah, the boycott itself can't reasonably be prosecuted. But it can be used to suppress discussion (e.g. organization, coordination) of said boycott.

[–] RedFrank24@lemmy.world 9 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Is that legal? It doesn't sound legal. I'm sure they could make it illegal for US government agencies to boycott Israel because that's at least partially a foreign policy decision, but private businesses? What are they gonna do, force you to buy Israeli goods?

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 2 points 28 minutes ago

narrator: it didn't sound legal because it wasn't.

[–] heyWhatsay@slrpnk.net 9 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Incremental steps into the police state.

[–] SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world 3 points 26 minutes ago

We are in a police state. This is more.

[–] AngrySquirrel@lemm.ee 39 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 19 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Because republicans care so much about laws they don't agree with.

[–] aramova@infosec.pub 2 points 4 hours ago

Or parts of the religions they thump on about.

[–] RidderSport@feddit.org 16 points 6 hours ago

Wait you first blame us for not having free speach, because lying about the holocaust is illegal and now you ban boycotting Israel for engaging in a de facto genocide?

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 11 points 6 hours ago

Well, we now know what death cult is behind the misery of literally the entire world.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 33 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

How do I boycott Israel in the first place? Not booking my next vacation there? Do I get 20 years in prison for that?

[–] Splenetic@lemm.ee 12 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

It seems like theatre. How will you ever prove that I chose Burger King over McDonalds for political reasons?

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 1 points 6 minutes ago

I don't eat meat. BK has Impossible burgers and McD's doesn't. Of course they've been coming after synthetic meat too in some places. They're throwing a fit because a single-digit % of the population had the audacity to opt out of eating meat derived from animals.

[–] sabo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 4 hours ago

disoccupied.com

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 21 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

https://bdsmovement.net/Act-Now-Against-These-Companies-Profiting-From-Genocide

Whatever the legal status of officially boycotting Isreal, there's still no law against just incidentally not doing business with the companies.

Before someone says they can't avoid some of these: OK, then boycott the other ones.

Whatever sand you have to throw, throw it in the gears of genocide. Don't just do nothing.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

The Constitution says there's also no law against actively and loudly not doing business with the companies

[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 11 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

They make a surprising amount of things. I noticed a woodworking tool I have was made in Israel. Never expected that.

[–] dufkm@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

I have a plastic table I use for woodworking and general carpentry that I later found out might be made in Israel, the brand is Keter. I see they sell lots of outdoor storage solutions locally as well, will avoid that brand in the future. Out of interest, what did you buy so I know what to look out for?

[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Well, I can think of at least one famous Jewish carpenter.

[–] Vandals_handle@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago
[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 11 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

How tf do you ban boycotts? What if I just don't want to consoom all the time?

[–] nuko147@lemm.ee 10 points 4 hours ago

Probably that is a threat for anyone spreading boycott movement in social media. So if you post McDonald are shit, bad for the health and do not consume them, you are ok. If you post don't go to McDonald because they support a genocide by Israel, then it is another story.

And so the fear begins. Its a first step.

[–] tmcgh@lemm.ee 4 points 5 hours ago

Sorry, we checked your recent bank transactions and you haven't spent enough money at [Insert Corporation]. Please pay the $100 fine or serve one day at [Insert Corporation] as a free laborer.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 64 points 10 hours ago (5 children)

Didn't CU rule that spending money is free speech? So isn't compelling the spending of money compelling speech? Sounds straight up unconstitutional.(as if that fucking matters these days)

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 63 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Rich people spending money is free speech.

Anti-genocide activists not spending money is terrorism.

AKA the usual.

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[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 9 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Law is summarized as:

Prohibited actions include (1) refusing to do business with companies organized under the laws of the boycotted country, if the refusal is pursuant to an agreement with or request from the country or IGO imposing the boycott; (2) refusing to employ any U.S. person on the basis of race, religion, sex, or national origin; and (3) furnishing information about whether someone is associated with charitable or fraternal organizations that support the boycotted country.

[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 17 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

So it seems like if you decide not to buy a shirt made in Israel because the EU suggests a boycott, you go to jail and/or get fined. Clear violation of the 1st ammendment.

[–] shawn1122@lemm.ee 19 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Practically, how do you prosecute someone for not voluntarily consuming a good or service?

[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 10 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

I'm guessing you can't but this might be aimed at businesses where there could be memos maybe?

[–] The_Lurker@lemmy.world 8 points 5 hours ago

It's for harassment. Even shit lawsuits cost serious money to defend. Yeah, it's unwinnable, but but the company defending might choose to not publicly side with a boycott or engage in one, which is the goal of these apocalypse seeking lunatics.

Also, lawyers don't take civil rights cases anymore since the Supreme Court ruled the lawyer couldn't get paid out of government reparations to the victims. Constitutional violation cases take time and a shit load of money to prosecute, something most victims don't have.

There was a recent decision continuing this trend.

https://studentbriefs.law.gwu.edu/crcl/2024/11/11/the-importance-of-attorneys-fees-in-civil-rights-cases-a-look-at-lackey-v-stinnie/

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