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[–] AngrySquirrel@lemm.ee 26 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 11 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Because republicans care so much about laws they don't agree with.

[–] aramova@infosec.pub 1 points 19 minutes ago

Or parts of the religions they thump on about.

[–] RidderSport@feddit.org 11 points 2 hours ago

Wait you first blame us for not having free speach, because lying about the holocaust is illegal and now you ban boycotting Israel for engaging in a de facto genocide?

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 8 points 2 hours ago

Well, we now know what death cult is behind the misery of literally the entire world.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 22 points 3 hours ago (4 children)

How do I boycott Israel in the first place? Not booking my next vacation there? Do I get 20 years in prison for that?

[–] sabo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 48 minutes ago

disoccupied.com

[–] Splenetic@lemm.ee 5 points 1 hour ago

It seems like theatre. How will you ever prove that I chose Burger King over McDonalds for political reasons?

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 11 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

https://bdsmovement.net/Act-Now-Against-These-Companies-Profiting-From-Genocide

Whatever the legal status of officially boycotting Isreal, there's still no law against just incidentally not doing business with the companies.

Before someone says they can't avoid some of these: OK, then boycott the other ones.

Whatever sand you have to throw, throw it in the gears of genocide. Don't just do nothing.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

The Constitution says there's also no law against actively and loudly not doing business with the companies

[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 9 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

They make a surprising amount of things. I noticed a woodworking tool I have was made in Israel. Never expected that.

[–] dufkm@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

I have a plastic table I use for woodworking and general carpentry that I later found out might be made in Israel, the brand is Keter. I see they sell lots of outdoor storage solutions locally as well, will avoid that brand in the future. Out of interest, what did you buy so I know what to look out for?

[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Well, I can think of at least one famous Jewish carpenter.

[–] Vandals_handle@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago
[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] dufkm@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago

Man, that sucks. I have lots of Bosch tools, although my router stuff is mostly other brands. Thanks for the tip, will be on the lookout.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 6 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

How tf do you ban boycotts? What if I just don't want to consoom all the time?

[–] nuko147@lemm.ee 3 points 28 minutes ago

Probably that is a threat for anyone spreading boycott movement in social media. So if you post McDonald are shit, bad for the health and do not consume them, you are ok. If you post don't go to McDonald because they support a genocide by Israel, then it is another story.

And so the fear begins. Its a first step.

[–] tmcgh@lemm.ee 2 points 1 hour ago

Sorry, we checked your recent bank transactions and you haven't spent enough money at [Insert Corporation]. Please pay the $100 fine or serve one day at [Insert Corporation] as a free laborer.

[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 8 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Law is summarized as:

Prohibited actions include (1) refusing to do business with companies organized under the laws of the boycotted country, if the refusal is pursuant to an agreement with or request from the country or IGO imposing the boycott; (2) refusing to employ any U.S. person on the basis of race, religion, sex, or national origin; and (3) furnishing information about whether someone is associated with charitable or fraternal organizations that support the boycotted country.

[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 15 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

So it seems like if you decide not to buy a shirt made in Israel because the EU suggests a boycott, you go to jail and/or get fined. Clear violation of the 1st ammendment.

[–] shawn1122@lemm.ee 17 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Practically, how do you prosecute someone for not voluntarily consuming a good or service?

[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 8 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

I'm guessing you can't but this might be aimed at businesses where there could be memos maybe?

[–] The_Lurker@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

It's for harassment. Even shit lawsuits cost serious money to defend. Yeah, it's unwinnable, but but the company defending might choose to not publicly side with a boycott or engage in one, which is the goal of these apocalypse seeking lunatics.

Also, lawyers don't take civil rights cases anymore since the Supreme Court ruled the lawyer couldn't get paid out of government reparations to the victims. Constitutional violation cases take time and a shit load of money to prosecute, something most victims don't have.

There was a recent decision continuing this trend.

https://studentbriefs.law.gwu.edu/crcl/2024/11/11/the-importance-of-attorneys-fees-in-civil-rights-cases-a-look-at-lackey-v-stinnie/

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Even then that only works if they specificy that it's because of a boycott, they could refuse to do business because the other guy smelt like a vegetarian omelette MRE which would be a valid reason. Anti-boycott laws are pretty universally easy to get around since a boycott functions on the principal of "I'm not buying that" which is pretty hard to prove the reasoning to.

[–] rapchee@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

fyi a vegetarian omlette is just an omlette, you're probably thinking vegan, also yeah vegans are so annoying for randomly bringing it up huh

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 61 points 6 hours ago (5 children)

Didn't CU rule that spending money is free speech? So isn't compelling the spending of money compelling speech? Sounds straight up unconstitutional.(as if that fucking matters these days)

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 58 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Rich people spending money is free speech.

Anti-genocide activists not spending money is terrorism.

AKA the usual.

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[–] wpb@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago

Gosh I wonder how the democrats will vote on this.

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 hours ago

I'm going to guess that they're trying to make it seem like boycotts are a serious threat. It's a start but not enough.

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 15 points 6 hours ago (5 children)

Can someone explain why Israel is so important to them? Aren’t these the same people who are antisemic? Additionally, how does supporting Israel make the us a Christian nation?

[–] RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 27 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Evangelical Christianity is a death cult predicated on Israel's existence and eventual destruction.

All those Christian "friends of Israel" long to see every Israeli dead. Because that means the end of the world. White Jesus comes back. A horn is blown. World War ending specifically in fire. Not a flood this time cuz God pinky swore not to.

And everyone except for 144,000 of the most insane Christians is damned to hellfire for all eternity. Jebus rebuilds heaven on Earth.

That's the whole story. From an Exvangelical who was raised in this snake-fuckingly crazy nonsense.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

Lol, imagine someone attacks Israel with a nuke, triggers an entire nuclear armageddon, and the whole world is englufed in "fire and brimstone," and the crazy mother fuckers were right all along.

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[–] nomy@lemmy.zip 38 points 6 hours ago

For a lot of evangelicals and orthodox jews, they believe the Third Temple must be built at Temple Mount for the Messiah to return/come. Christians are a death cult and it's part of their eschatology to work towards those ends to bring about the Second Coming and the rise of New Jerusalem/Zion.

In terms of realpolitik Israel is a strategic foothold in an geographically important area rich with resources and trade routes.

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 5 points 5 hours ago

Evangelists odd profecies, but mostly lobbying. AIPAC.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 hours ago

The American economy since WW2 has relied on funding and supplying armed conflict.

No other entity has supplied more justification for that end.

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[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 74 points 8 hours ago (7 children)

How do you outlaw a boycott? It's not an act, it's a non-act. An absence of a purchase. How do you distinguish boycott from just not buying something you don't want or need like any other item. Are we going to be required to put so much of our purchases toward Isreal now?

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 13 points 5 hours ago

the state wants to lock you up, figures out you don't drink coca cola, You're on trial for not buying Coca-Cola, or Nestle, or never tried Sabras hummus... straight to jail.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 34 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Ding ding ding.

This is how they "lawfully" throw "dissidents" into the gulag.

Remember...most of what Hitler did was technically legal and above-board. Because they controlled the laws and shaped them as they saw fit.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 6 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Back in the days the Spanish Inquisition would become suspicious of people who seemed to not eat pork.

In other words, yes, precisely, they're trying to sus out heretics. Don't want to be mistaken for one? Perform the rites publicly, then.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

You outlaw a boycott by using violence against those who promote the boycott. It's not even anything new. Many states have already been doing this. Not to mention recent disappearances of anti-genocide activists.

Violence in service of hegemony is almost the entire purpose of the state.

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