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[–] AidsKitty@lemmy.world 0 points 5 hours ago

If libs take the stance that you're either fully on my team or you're my enemy then it's going to be a long time until you win some elections and have the ability to make real policy. Democracy is about compromise and appealing to as many voters as possible. Truth is whomever gets the independents wins the elections in the USA, everything else is just noise and excuses.

[–] Ragdoll_X@sh.itjust.works 22 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (14 children)

Funny how there's a bunch of people in the comments essentially just unironically repeating the meme: "Well this must be wrong because I believe this and I'm actually a centrist!!!"

That's the point, buddy. You're the butt of the joke. The idea that the far-left and far-right are equally bad or warrant the same amount of scrutiny and criticism is a right-wing belief.

To make the point more obvious instead of using "left" and "right" look at specific political beliefs that the far-left and far-right have:

  1. Equality across social and demographic groups vs. State-enforced racism, sexism and other kinds of bigotry

  2. Abolishment of bourgeois property and money vs. Complete privatization, oligarchy and corruption

  3. Globalization, peaceful relations and a right to live where you want vs. Complete isolationism and xenophobia

  4. Right to self-governance and no government with a monopoly on violence vs. State sanctioned violence against those considered undesirable or traitors

Hopefully I don't need to explain which one is obviously worse. To equate what the far-left and the far-right advocate for one must misrepresent the left, so both-sides-ism inherently has a right-wing slant.

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[–] Never_go_full_regard@lemmy.today 10 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

Both sides exclude me for holding my particular set of opinions. I'm on my side, fuck you!

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[–] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 18 hours ago (23 children)

This is some crazy doublethink shit. It's clear just looking at the inconsistent interpretation from all the top-level comments that 'centrist' is a blanket term that both describes 'centrist' positions and also 'left/right radicals'. The only consistent is whether the subject is subjecting the in-group to criticism

The same user constantly harps on 'far-left' progressives complaining about democratic positions, and calls himself a centrist.

This is just standard 'out-group' gatekeeping. "If you're not with us, you're against us" shit.

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[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 9 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

As long as you're amoral and self-serving, you can only be a "right winger", whatever that means. It's only when you dispel the myth of moral relativism and believe that, yeah, some things ARE wrong (and we should avoid and condemn them, of course), that you can start becoming a person worth existing and worth listening to. And if you're not very smart nor very brave you might be a "non radical" "leftist" but hey, your heart is probably in the right place so I'm not gonna hate (too much).

[–] aidan@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

It's only when you dispel the myth of moral relativism and believe that, yeah, some things ARE wrong (and we should avoid and condemn them, of course)

You can be a moral relativist without equating someone else's view of morality to your own. Or rather, while still only valuing your own.

[–] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 31 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The problem is those "Centrists" are the mainstream Democratic party. There is no left-wing in national politics. The left has no one to vote for.

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