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There’s absolutely nothing they can do to ban porn, and the number of people who watch and view porn is so large they can’t arrest everyone, maybe just arrest their enemies?
Also this guy is obviously a pedophile or something, no one else spends this much time talking about porn
Funnily enough, porn is sort of the canary in the coalmine for free speech. Their use of banning it will be through defining what is and is not obscene. If they can get a case run up to the supreme court, who then confirm that this self expression is obscene, that opens the flood gates for them to freely define what self expression is obscene and ban it or send people to jail.
From there it's a small step to calling something like a dissenting political opinion obscene.
Make everyone a criminal, selectively arrest your enemies. Very simple.
What happens when they decide they have the right to enforce that law abroad?
The thing about them is that the ones that claim to hate porn the most are usually the ones with the most fucked up fetishes. If you look at my porn habits you'd fall asleep.
Someone should check these idiots' hard drives. I'm willing to bet they have a lot of nasty stuff that's already illegal on there.
It will be several orders of magnitude worse than prohibition era policies if it passes, although I suspect part of the impetus is because save for the ideologues they are better at competing and prospering in black markets than they are in open markets.
"If all porn got deleted from the internet there would only be one site left and it would read 'Give us back our porn' " - Dr Cox
If Dr Cox and Mr Cox cable got together for a video it would be two cox at the same time! Highly illegal to have two cox at the same time once this law passes. I need to find more cox at the same time videos to watch before I can't watch two cox at the same time anymore!
I love cox
2 or more cox at once are a recipe for happiness.
Especially if the Janitor, Bob Kelso and JD appear
New Bill sounds like kind of a dick. Bring back old Bill.
B-b-b-bill nyeee the science guuy
You got it Baybee!
Damn, there goes OnlyFans, republicans just killing more american jobs.
That mostly effects women, which is on brand. I don't know the statistics, but I assume a majority of OF content creators are women.
(looked it up, 70% of the creators are women. 70% are also NSFW)
Damn thats a high percentage. I was just tryna be silly, but I appreciate the actual facts. I need to look up how many accounts there are total to get a perspective of what that'll do.
God I hope they do. It'll be hilarious to watch how quickly all the incels turn on Trump. Not to mention all the married Conservatives who hate their wives.
yeah, except this is the first step in Project 2025 to genocide trans people:
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/17416590241312149
Pornography, he writes:
[is] manifested today in the omnipresent propagation of transgender ideology and sexualization of children [. . .] It has no claim to First Amendment protection. Its purveyors are child predators and misogynistic exploiters of women. Their product is as addictive as any illicit drug and as psychologically destructive as any crime. Pornography should be outlawed (Roberts, 2023: 5).
This invocation of pornography is intentionally broad, vague, and amorphous. By equating trans issues (“transgenderism” and “transgender ideology”) with pornography, child abuse, and misogyny, this vision takes one step toward the outlawing of trans people altogether. Roberts (2023) goes on to detail the draconian and restrictive mechanisms necessary for eradicating pornography and all that comes with it: “The people who produce and distribute it should be imprisoned. Educators and public librarians who purvey it should be classed as registered sex offenders. And telecommunications and technology firms that facilitate its spread should be shuttered” (p. 5). Such extreme rhetoric signals a no-holds barred approach to regulating gender, sexuality, and privacy. Aware that more left-leaning states would be unlikely to arrest trans people on such counts, the document later details a wider plan through which the Department of Justice would intervene and prosecute any local officials not willing to bring criminal action against LGBTQ people (Hamilton, 2023: 553).
Honestly, I'm the idiot here for not immediately assuming this was somehow about attacking trans people.
You know what's crazy? The part about feeling shame. There's been some recent studies about a lot of previously diagnosed sex/porn disorders and addictions being tied to shame due to misinformed religious conservative upbringing. If anything, we need to be talking about and teaching more about sex. Not learning about it correctly leads to hangups and shame about the human body, love, and self love that makes you nearly incapable of showing or expressing yourself correctly. That's why all these conservatives are so fucking weird.
I've always thought it interesting that people say that porn leads to people being incapable of relationships.
It's like, no, obviously plenty of people who watch porn are capable of being in relationships.
The reality is that people who ALREADY have trouble with relationships use porn a lot.
Similarly, drugs don't tend to be step one in a person's life being messed up. The drugs are usually the coping mechanism, not the cause.
And yet, they ban all drugs, rather than putting time and effort to making people's lives better.
You want to reduce porn usage? Have mandatory comprehensive social interaction classes for EVERYONE, including dating, including concepts like consent and flirting and asking people out. It should be a class that EVERY student has, and it should be EVERY year. So no one gets left behind.
You want to reduce drug usage? Have those mandatory social interaction classes AND have classes to cover things that people typically struggle with in life. Connect psychologists, financial organizations, and other professions with educators so that people in those professions can anonymously give data about the issues that people struggle with in life, and work to make sure that classes to deal with those aspects of life happen BEFORE the times when those issues normally tend to pop up in people's lives. Coping classes need to be mandatory.
Drug use will fall through the floor if people are taught coping strategies before they need them in as many areas of life as possible.
Totally. We really just have a lot of mental health problems in this country tied to not seeing therapy as a real tool to aid in building better foundations that lead to better outcomes by being able to build those emotionally intelligent muscles that might get miswired otherwise. Everyone has baggage and no one is perfect, but when we build a world and society that looks down on people with trauma, abuse, or bad/unlucky experiences rather than raising them up we just end up with a sicker and sicker society. We should never be putting people down or outright banning things. Rather, we should be looking at society, its systems, its flaws, and its good points and be trying to better understand it and integrating as much of the human experience into it as we can. Everything can be bad for you if you do enough of it, but it is about finding real restraint through better understanding rather than shaming it all away. At least, that is how I see the world, or at least a better one than the mess we seem to be caught up in now.
I feel there's some parallels here with fat shaming. (and addiction shaming in general) People exposed to judgemental attitudes about their weight are measurably more likely to become obese, no matter their initial weight. Shaming can make one more fixated on their desire for food, and when that desire is in the front of one's mind, it raises the psychological effort required to resist the urge for comfort in food. That effort is not infinite and will eventually run out, which is why white-knuckling through a diet tends to not lead to permanent results.
Misinformed sex education teaches us to feel shame for sexual urges most everyone has, and in a similar capacity could make one more fixated on that urge. If one instead has a positive view toward their sexuality, they do not have to cope with insecurities that remind them of temptation toward something they're not supposed to do but would be immensely pleasurable. They just do it from time to time and it doesn't bleed into the rest of their life.
idk a bit personal but, I find accepting all parts of my sexuality (especially the parts that make me feel icky) has made me much less prone to risky behavior. shame makes it difficult to make good decisions. I'm a lot more clearheaded now and can just enjoy physical affection with someone I love. I can communicate what I'd enjoy and set appropriate boundaries. fantasy and reality are more well separated now. importantly, I am more satisfied at a baseline and therefore seeking out sex less on the whole.
Body and sex positivity works extremely well as a means of coping with primal urges, not only because it makes us feel better about parts of us that will never go away, but also because accepting them actually leads to better self-control and decisionmaking.
No doubt. I think especially in childhood and early adult hood there are a lot of things that get muddled and tied up in shame where coping mechanisms and real self reflection needs to be ingrained earlier. There's so many little hurdles to overcome in life but having a good foundation probably makes it overall easier.
Fat shaming makes people feel hopeless and actually encourages depression which causes overeating.
People who fat shame KNOW they are causing people to be fat. They're not fat shaming out of concern for others.
It is openly to damage those other people's lives, because the people doing the shaming are looking for a way to make themselves feel good, and fat shaming gives them a positive feeling.
This has been understood for a long time. But I appreciate that you're bringing awareness to people who haven't yet heard. Cheers.
Indeed. This was the article that started me down the rabbit hole. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/women-who-stray/201808/science-stopped-believing-in-porn-addiction-you-should-too All very interesting stuff and there are a lot of peer reviewed papers on the subject as well.
It always comes out the people writing and advocating for these end up the sickest and most twisted sexual deviants out there
How long until he gets busted for CSAM (real CSAM, not the drawn stuff).
This will backfire spectacularly. Red states are bigger fans of porn than blue.
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/2378023120908472
I will enjoy every second of it!