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Mathematicians find 12,000 new solutions to 'unsolvable' 3-body problem::Calculating the way three things orbit each other is notoriously tricky, but a new study may reveal 12,000 new solutions.

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[–] frezik@midwest.social 120 points 2 years ago

This is one of those headlines that's more obscuring than enlightening. We knew a bunch of ways that you could arrange three gravitational bodies and have them be in a stable orbit around each other. This adds 12,000 more. However, a general solution is still incredibly complicated, and the Trisolarans would still like to have a little chat with us in Australia some time.

[–] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 57 points 2 years ago

Title is wrong. Unsolvable means no general closed form solution. That doesn't mean that single constellations cannot be proven stable.

There is for example a trivial solution to the n-body problem. Arrange all bodies equidistant on a circle and have them move at the speed that keeps them on the circle.

[–] skabbywag02@lemm.ee 47 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Damn it, I just started Cixin's book and now these jerks are going to spoil it;)

[–] FatTony@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

I guess we'll just go with the first one.

[–] GravelPieceOfSword@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago

Now onto the four body problem!

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Wsn't it solved long ago? There's even an old KSP mod 'Pricipia' for it.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You can simulate a specific arrangement of n-bodies, where n > 2. Depending on how accurate you want it to be, you may need a supercomputer.

If n = 2, then you can work it out on a napkin. If n = 1, you can draw a circle, point at it, and say "I figured it out!"

[–] PetDinosaurs@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

So they mean there's no general solution. That doesn't mean that we can't find specific solutions.

As for your notion of solved, that's solved in a numerical sense.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago

Isn't this already solved by total gravitational mass anyway? I'm not understanding what this article even means. You have 3 bodies that are constantly losing mass, and any difference in equilibrium means they fall out of orbit with each other. 3 bodies of exactly or near the density would decay at the same rate. I'm a laymen, but help me out here.