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[–] sagrotan@lemmy.world 103 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The 1% how much taxes they pay

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 24 points 1 year ago

You're too generous for not making it a yes/no question

[–] Cabrio@lemmy.world 60 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

You can tell the poster is American because they blame the government involved for all of these except the US, where they blamed the CIA.

[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 36 points 1 year ago (7 children)

You're right, as an American I knew the specific government agency that overthrew foreign governments. But I don't mean to imply that the U.S. government is blameless.

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[–] BetaBlake@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

I mean the CIA is the us government

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago

No you see it was just a few bad apples.

[–] Laticauda@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago

The CIA is part of the US government.

[–] No_Money_Just_Change@lemmy.ml 47 points 1 year ago

Don't ask OP about the use of prepositions

[–] Erika2rsis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"Was there a massacre in Tiananmen Square?"

—"No."

"Were people killed elsewhere in Beijing?"

—"...Ermh..."

"Ahem. I am asking you if people were killed in the area immediately surrounding Tiananmen Square, even if nobody was killed in the square itself."

—"The protesters in Tiananmen Square left after negotiations with the PLA. There was no bloodshed in Tiananmen Square."

"I understand that, but were people killed elsewhere in Beijing?"

—"Nowhere in Beijing were student protestors specifically targeted."

"Well, were non-students targeted, and were any students injured or killed without being targeted?"

—"Hey did you know that the Three Gorges Dam is the world's largest—"

"Gongchandang, my friend, I am begging you."

—"...Force may have been used when provoked by attacks."

"May force have also been used unprovoked? Could it have been that the protesters felt like they were provoked first, because you were sending tanks past the barricades that they'd put up?"

—"I mean... you know... uhh..."

"Gongchandang. Were you scared that the occupation of Beijing and the potential of a workers' revolt would threaten the survival of socialism in China, by presenting a still-socialist alternative to your rule, because societal division particularly among the less politically literate could be (and was) exploited by outside forces?"

—"OUR YOUTH ARE VULNERABLE TO IMPERIALIST PROPAGANDA, OK‽ ALSO, TANK MAN DIDN'T GET RUN OVER. SEE. HE WAS PULLED AWAY BY A PASSERBY. NOT RUN OVER."

[–] GCostanzaStepOnMe@feddit.de 40 points 1 year ago

Never ask a Lemmy user where they've hidden the good posts.

[–] Samsy@lemmy.ml 35 points 1 year ago

The US about indigenous Americans.

Oh wait, they made hundreds of movies about killing them.

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (15 children)

I don't know if I would have used Tiananmen Square.

The Uighur re-education cities seems far more fitting.

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[–] icepuncher69@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The Canadian government about the canadian indian residential school system

The Iran government about Salman Rushdie

The Mexican government about Ayotzinapas 43

The British government about their museums

The German government about their car manufacturers.

The Indian government about Aasif Sultan

The Russian government about how much the war in Ukraine should have lasted.

And many more...

Do let me know btw if you know of anymore of this.

Edit:

Aded russia

[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 30 points 1 year ago (8 children)

To be fair, Germans largely don't deny what happened. Being a holocaust denier can even get you into prison. IHMO that is how you should handle such matters.

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[–] TurtleJoe@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Boy, the museums are really just the very tip of the iceberg for the Brits.

[–] icepuncher69@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

A list about things to not ask them for would be huge.

[–] Gray@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 year ago

How a person reacts to being asked about the version of these things most close to them is telling. If they get defensive and deny the event happened, I would hesitate to trust their opinion on other things. Clearly that person bases their opinions on what they want to be true rather than reality. That's the kind of person whose ideology would likely lead to another event to be ashamed of. If, on the other hand, they admit it was a horrible thing and agree that people should be educated on it and that steps should be taken to prevent it from ever happening again, then I'm more likely to take their opinion seriously and believe that they can be part of the conversations we need to happen to create a better world.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 22 points 1 year ago (4 children)

What do you mean don't ask the UK about African interment camps?

Our lovely Tory government spent most of last year proud of trying to deport asylum seekers to fucking Rwanda. Like it was some sort of vote winner.

[–] Spendrill@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think it's unfair to suggest that the UK Government doesn't like you asking about African internment camps.

They also don't like you asking about:

  • the conditions under which refugees are currently housed, give you a clue it kind of rhymes historically with internment camps
  • Various Indian famines that were caused or exacerbated by colonial rule
  • role in slave trade. Yes they ended the slave trade... by compensating slave owners. Also started the fucking thing.
  • That time we basically stole an entire island from its people to put an airbase there.
  • linked to the internment camps, pretty much anything Churchill did prior to the Second World War and after it also.
  • the undercover activities of the police investigating environmental groups e.g. having children by the people they were surveilling.

There's probably several pages of this but I've only just woken up.

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[–] Anonymousllama@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Never forget about the vicious emu war in Australia either, our shameful defeat https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emu_War

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[–] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Don't ask the UK anything about their troubling history with black people or slavery unless it's to mention that they were one of the first countries to stop making black people property. They get really mad if you mention anything but that.

[–] MissJinx@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

FTFY: Don't ask the UK anything about their troubling history ~~with black people~~

UK history with anyone else is better not to be talked about

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[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Don't forget Unit 731 for the imperial Japanese as well.

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[–] SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Was about to comment "the germans about ww2" but then remembered that we are quite open about that time. Wouldn't have made much sense either as there would be no use in evem trying to hide it

[–] punkisundead@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

"Germany about colonialism" would be a better fit.

Also the german sentiment about WW2 is something that survivors for ever, students in the 60s/70s and antifascists right now fought for / are fighting for. Considering we have parts of the country that vote 30%+ for members of a nazi party the sentiment could shift really fast and atleast from my perspective considerably shifted already

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[–] whome@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 year ago

That's why it's so abhorrent that voices from the right but not only from the right get louder, that demand an end to the relatively good remembrance culture here in Germany. I hate the: "it was so long ago, it wasn't us" talking points. It's the first step towards forgetting, historic revisionism and possibly repeating the things that were done.

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[–] lunaticneko@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago

In Thailand:

  • 6 October
  • Bloody May
  • The K--g Never Smiles
  • The Devil's Discus
  • "Unfortunately Some People Died"
[–] whereisk@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The Russians about Central Asian colonialism.

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[–] red@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 year ago

The creator of this meme: proper contrast

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Australians: About the indigenous Tasmanians

[–] landsharkkidd@aussie.zone 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The Australians: About First Nations.

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[–] supercriticalcheese@feddit.it 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Don't ask the French (Police) what happened in 17 October 1961

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_massacre_of_1961

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[–] Twelve20two@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We should make this list longer

[–] Marketsupreme@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

At first I thought you meant perform events that would add to the list.

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[–] FatTony@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

Man, women really don't like to be asked about their age don't they?

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago

The US Walk of Shame was much worse than the Coups

[–] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

Russia about Balkars, Crimean Tatars, Chechens, Ingush, Karachays, Kalmyks, Koreans or Meskhetian Turks

[–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Not to be pedantic about a meme but I would consider the US repeatedly detonating nuclear weapons on the Marshall Islands and then doing jack shit to clean up the mess to be worse than any coup.

67 of them to be exact. 70 years later, the Marshallese are still the ones paying the price of that incredibly bad decision.

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[–] aroom@artemis.camp 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

It's almost like every government commits atrocities at some point or another.

[–] justhach@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

The Canadian Government about Residential Schools

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