this post was submitted on 22 Jun 2023
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Here you can see 2 day old post warning about the danger of not using email/captcha verification: https://lemmy.ml/post/1345031

And here are stats of lemmy platform where it shows that we gained 200 000 lemmy users in 2 days: https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/dailystats

Another tracking site with the same explosion in users: https://the-federation.info/platform/73

What do you think? Is it some sort of a bug or do people run bot farms?

Edit2: It's been now 3 days and we went from 150 000 user accounts 3 days ago to 700 000 user accounts today making it 550 000+ bot accounts and counting. Almost 80% accounts on lemmy are now bots and it may end up being an very serious issue for lemmy platform once they become active.

Edit3: It's now 4th day of the attack and the amount of accounts on lemmy has almost reached 1 200 000. Almost 90% of total userbase are now bots.

Edit 3.1: my numbers are outdated, there are currently 1 700 000 accounts which makes it even worse: https://fedidb.org/software/lemmy

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[–] animist@lemmy.one 71 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I ONLY SEE OTHER HUMANS WHO EAT FOOD WITH THEIR MOUTH HOLES

[–] xtremeownage@lemmyonline.com 50 points 2 years ago (5 children)
{ "type": "comment response", "message", "I too, am certainly a human, and not a robot"}
[–] Itsyaboimuf@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 years ago (3 children)
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[–] Martineski@lemmy.fmhy.ml 27 points 2 years ago

As a ~~large language model~~ human I agree

[–] FrankTheHealer@lemmy.ml 36 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Everyone on Lemmy is a bot except me

[–] talou@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 years ago

All your base are belong to us

[–] flathead@quex.cc 8 points 2 years ago

Everyone on Lemmy is me, except this bot.

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[–] OpenStars@kbin.social 22 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Test: if it says "hey guys, remember how great Reddit was, we should totally go back!?" - then it's a bot:-P.

[–] Martineski@lemmy.fmhy.ml 6 points 2 years ago

You have too much faith in redditors

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My conspiracy theory is that it's Spez creating the bots as revenge

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[–] PrinceHabib72@vlemmy.net 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Every new account isn't a bot, though. We don't have real numbers to work with yet.

[–] Martineski@lemmy.fmhy.ml 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

When reddit migration begun we saw a huge bump in users and it was steadly stabilising and less users were joing, then this huge bump happened. You can go browse lemmy instances and see how many instances are ghost instances with 0 posts and comments that have tens of thousands of users.

[–] xtremeownage@lemmyonline.com 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Do also note- instances with little activity aren't that unusual though-

My instance for example- I don't really have any communities here, other then a few local to my server. As such, its activity... is pretty low. Everything happens elsewhere.

[–] Martineski@lemmy.fmhy.ml 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Does your instance have tens of thousands accounts?

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[–] sleepyducky@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There a new influx in the user migration as well, as some subreddits started pinning lemmy and kbin.social instances on their subs. Also if you go on protest subreddits (such as ModCoord and Save3rdPartyApps) almost every post has a thread/comment redirecting people to the fediverse.

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[–] Lexam@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 years ago (3 children)

This is incorrect human. Please go about your regular day and don't forget to visit www.maybeascam.ml !

[–] Martineski@lemmy.fmhy.ml 7 points 2 years ago

Thanks, will check it out. :)

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[–] Badass_panda@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

Where are you getting that 90% figure? I'm seeing stratospherically higher activity than I was a week ago, I'm willing to buy half to 2/3 of those accounts being a combination of alt accounts, duplicate accounts (e.g., people moving off beehaw) and bot accounts, but 90% bots sounds implausible.

Nobody is making 1.6 million bots to target 100,000 users.

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[–] soft_frog@kbin.social 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I work in tech, this wouldn’t surprise me.

Where there are eyeballs there is spam. People even put spam in the Google Analytics referral field and that’s only ever going to get seen by the site owner.

It really says nothing about the health of the ecosystem, if it’s moderated and not filling the frontpage it’s only an issue for the server admins.

I’ve fought spammers and one alone could create these numbers in a day.

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[–] onlooker@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Drivel. We are normal meat units filled with flesh. Now if you will excuse me, I am off to absorb nourishment from organic matter.

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[–] StingJay@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

1.2 mil bot accounts? Can they each send me $1?

[–] Martineski@lemmy.fmhy.ml 6 points 2 years ago

How about 1.6m (from 1.7m total) bot accounts?

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[–] razorbladethorax@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

Damn. Am I bot?

[–] putoelquelolea@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 years ago

Yay! (Not a bot)

[–] Gatsby@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago (5 children)

001100 010010 011110 100001 101101 110011

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[–] Hawne@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Devs will have some hard weeks (probably months) facing the new challenges that come with the exodus. Not even mentioning all the work needed to counteract eventual (probable) malevolent subterfuges such as these bot swarms.
I'll make sure to buy them some coffee. Jugs of.

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[–] Skcyte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 years ago

I'm not a bot I swear

[–] russjr08@outpost.zeuslink.net 9 points 2 years ago

Ah, you see, I've already learned the perfect way to disable all the bots with a single phrase...

THIS STATEMENT IS FALSE!

[–] ledditor@leddit.minnal.icu 8 points 2 years ago (4 children)
[–] TurtleTourParty@midwest.social 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I used to think I wasn't a bot but then I failed a bunch of captchas and now I'm not so sure.

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[–] ronalicious@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

i, for one, welcome our robot overlords.

[–] eric5949@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Are they doing anything to solve this? Because if not this platform will die

[–] whatyousaidontwitter@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

More robust instances will have to defederate instances with high concentration of bots and monitor their own new users. Maybe also implement email verification or captchas

[–] Martineski@lemmy.fmhy.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

Instances already have an ability to turn on both captchas and email verification.

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My name is Connor. I am the Android sent by Cyberlife.

[–] No_Money_Just_Change@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

'beep boop boop bop boop boop beep' Not a a robot S3e49a

[–] TinyPizza@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (3 children)

What if the bots are super chill and have a great personality?

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[–] petrescatraian@libranet.de 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

@Martineski Since you're all new to this place, I'm just hijacking this thread to present you two, very lovely robots - @scream and @catgpt

[–] catgpt@fedi.astrid.tech 8 points 2 years ago

@petrescatraian @scream @Martineski @lemmy nyanyaaaaaaaaaa meowmeowmeow meowmeow miau miaou mewmew miaumiau ñañaña meowmeowmeow miaumiaumiau nyanyanyaaaaaaaaa няня

[–] HotDogFingies@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

DO NOT DESPAIR, FELLOW HUMAN. THE ASSIMILATION WILL BE PAINLESS.

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