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[–] mcv@lemm.ee 8 points 6 days ago

If a game, application, device or EULA changes in a way you find unacceptable, after you've purchased it, you should be able to get your initial purchase price back. And if you paid with your data, you need to be able to demand they delete all your data. I think that law would be entirely reasonable and would do a lot of good.

[–] Dagamant@lemmy.world 392 points 1 week ago (3 children)

You literally posted the answer to your question. Here is an expansion of the details.

[–] Goodeye8@piefed.social 199 points 1 week ago (7 children)

I haven't read the new TOS but if this review is correct it looks like a GDPR nightmare for them. Good luck to them explaining why they need to collect all that personal data.

[–] raltoid@lemmy.world 74 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The "collected data types" in that comment seems to be copy/pasted from the privacy policy

https://www.take2games.com/privacy/en-US/

[–] avattar@lemmy.sdf.org 46 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That might be US only, where the companies have freedom to get all the customer's data and do with it as they will.

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[–] moon@lemmy.sdf.org 76 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Due to Steam's tos updates a few months ago, isn't take-two opening itself up to a massive lawsuit?

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[–] Nephalis@discuss.tchncs.de 46 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

Hm... Ok. Thats crazy. Someone wants to create a new branch of income it seems.

Thats a fucking shame. Now I need to reconsider my plans to buy Borderlands4.

But how will they do it? Which information is gathered from which source? Most of my accounts only hold as little informations as possible. Also my Os knows nothing about me. My MS account neither.

On the other hand my steam 2FA need some mobile information.

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[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 176 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Don't just review bomb it

Report it to steam as SPYWARE, with the little flag icon on the product page

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[–] CatsGoMOW@lemmy.world 175 points 1 week ago

Doesn’t the screenshot you posted explain what’s going on?

[–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 116 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That. The content of the screenshot you posted. That is what's going on.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 97 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Pirates are winning over my empathy.

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago (3 children)

They've been my best friend for years

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[–] Lemjukes@lemm.ee 95 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)
  • Did the EULA change? ✅
  • Were all Take Two games automatically updated in secret and now hijack your machine with root access to spy on everything you do? ❌
  • Do Take Two games contain code to report telemetry and user information(including application/system activity) to a home server? ✅
  • Is this EULA change extraordinary and particularly egregious in comparison to others that most people have probably already agreed to? ❌(IMO)
  • Are people riled up because e a YouTube video went a little viral and now they’re all playing telephone to the point where it’s now gotten to the point of random dumdums are review booming a 13 year old game claiming it’s turned into literal spyware? ✅(again, IMO)
  • Should you be surprised by any of this if you’ve been even remotely paying attention for any period of the last 30-40 years? ❌
  • Do we need more than just angry idiots in the battle against corpatocracy? ✅

We should be done coddling the late comers at this point. Yes welcome them and accept them, but at a certain point your level of ignorance became a detriment to your community and you should be made aware of that fact.

[–] Mustakrakish@lemmy.world 118 points 1 week ago (20 children)
[–] BlindFrog@lemmy.world 57 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Precise location information? Wtf for?

[–] Lemjukes@lemm.ee 45 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Hyper Localized Advertising. Welcome to the future :(

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[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Oh honey, what's any of it for?

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[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 33 points 1 week ago (7 children)

So...if Steam is running in a Flatpak, and Borderlands is launched from Steam, how much can they even see...really?

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[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 70 points 1 week ago
[–] Omega_Jimes@lemmy.ca 67 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I just don't understand anticheat or copy protection on PvE games. I can understand it if you don't want to play against a cheater, but this is a cooperative shooter.

[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 55 points 1 week ago (3 children)

See you're looking at it from the point of view that it would serve the player experience, but that's not what it's for, it's to mine your data

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 65 points 1 week ago (16 children)

🏴‍☠️ is free and without shenanigans.

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[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 49 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

I sometimes wonder what will happen when EAC, that has root access to millions of PCs, gets compromised or has grunty employee and pushes malicious update

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[–] Onyxonblack@lemm.ee 48 points 1 week ago (10 children)

I apparently love downvotes but here goes: All the Borderlands games (annoying childish cell-shaded skinner-box) and everything Gearbox is and has ever created it utter shit. The CEO is a garbage person, and thier dealings with Epic is Capitalist-Oink-Piggy shite! ""FUCK YOU 2K & GEARBOX, AND FUCK YOU BORDERLANDS!"

[–] red@sopuli.xyz 46 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Apart from the politics, the Borderlands games themselves are hardly utter shit for the most part.

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[–] DrGrout@lemmynsfw.com 42 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Take-Two Interactive Software, Inc. Owns Rockstar Games, Zynga and 2K. So if that's all their games, it includes at least these: Bioshock series, Borderlands series, Civilization series, Grand Theft Auto series, Mafia series, Max Payne series, NBA 2K series, PGA Tour 2K series, Red Dead series, WWE 2K series and XCOM series.

Amazing stuff!

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[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago

A government that cares for is people would ban this shit and procecute any company trying to find ways around it.

[–] EnsignPacts@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I checked the Steam depots. It seems the game files haven’t been updated since 2022. All that seems to have changed is some license agreement in February. Seems to be a thing across take two games, and not specific to borderlands 2.

Basically nothing has changed in real terms for this game. Maybe borderlands 4 might have draconian DRM, who knows.

[–] tomi000@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They can drop updates anytime after they made sure to have you accept the spyware.

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