is this the part where i'm supposed to feign surprise? oh, gee golly heavens! i can't believe this!
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Say the line Bart!
sigh, "Unlike insert socialist country here, the West has freedom of speech and the right to express your opinions without the secret police coming after you."
YAYYYYYYY!
Fuck all those spying countries. But yea still I believe in the west you get in trouble for acting, not just speaking
While it is true that they are not convicted, all 4 of them are prime suspects in the destruction of university property and in threatening university staff with weapons, which is legally enough of a reason to throw even eu citizens out.
which is legally enough of a reason
What are you talking about? Being a suspect of something is, by definition, not legally enough of a reason.
Under german law it is enough of a reason to get deported when the german immigratsoffice things that you are a threat to public safety. They dont need legal proof. having a lawsuit against you of a serious crime is enough for that. Eu law says that you need more reason to be deported, but that is eu law not german law.
Thats why the american gets deported and doesnt file a lawsuit, while the 3 europeans did (and most likly can stay in germany till their lawsuit for destroying university property of at least 100k, attack with hatches, bats and heavy equippment, defamation and usage of unconstitutianal symbols and parols comes to a conclusion)
Under german law it is enough of a reason to get deported when the german immigratsoffice things that you are a threat to public safety.
Lol, what even is due process.
They dont need legal proof.
I hope you're not trying to say that's acceptable.
Well most countries handle it this way. You get your visa revoked and thats it. Pretty normal stuff and rarely is a judge involved. In the usa they dont even need to revoke a visa to throw you into guantanamo it seems. Non citizens normally dont have a right to stay in a country. It is a priviledge not a right.
I am not sure how i feel about needing a lot of evidence to rewoke visas.
In this case 3 ppl are eu citizens and the eu "freizügigkeit" needs more evidence than just allegations. However when a few neo nazi hooligans from ireland would storm into a university i would like them to be deported, especially if they dont even say the allegations are wrong. So i have to admit i am indifferent in this case.
All you seem to be doing is proving the original point.
They are not you are lying.
I am not here is an article for you so you can read up on it https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article255845278/Wegen-Stuermung-von-Uni-Gebaeude-Erstmals-Exempel-statuiert-Berlin-plant-Ausweisung-auslaendischer-Israel-Hasser.html
Quote it.
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This is a cool way to protect a belief, narrowing the scope so that the refuting data do not apply anymore. Perhaps I can write a fucking essay about it, but do you have data to support this narrowing move? There is like a ton of data that the West has been invasively spying of possible threats to the status quo (from Cointelpro to undercover UK cops like recently), not just people "acting on it". Furthermore, actions can fall under protected free speech as well, like putting up a poster, demonstrating, and protesting. So your proposal is inherently undemocratic if you roll back freedom to only protect oral expression, quite similar to a "Don't ask don't tell" attitude towards gay people. What you just said is simply counter-factual. Blanket surveillance is a staple of Western societies in the 21st century, and it blows my mind that there are still people oblivious to what is more or less spelled out clearly in the Patriot Act and all laws modeled after it across the globe.
well said, i wish eurolibs would get this through their head, but i'm wishing for too much
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it only enabled its operators access to encrypted communications...
what the heck? isnt this much worse than simple microphone access?
“only”
"We only broke into your house and stole your shit, we didn't stab you in your sleep. You're welcome. "
Reminds me of when the NSA was spying on Yahoo Video calls so they could do their early facial recognition training.
Since it was a platform mostly used for video sex, The NSA literally made a public statement saying they had a system to blur genitals and that they were "only" training facial recognition data.
My mind was fucking blown. Who cares if you film my dick? That doesn't let you identity me from the MacDonald's cameras you hacked into. The face data is what we were worried about.
They are also dirty grubby disgusting liars. They can turn on the microphone while it is off. While the whole phone is "off" which it never really is. That's why you can't buy a phone without a removavle battery.
“Only”
I think it means in the encrypted state. Still, bad.
Why does this not surprise me??
In other words, our good democratic ally in the Middle East is doing good things.
They hack Italian (i assume they are italian citizens) working with migrants. If real Italians arent safe from the Spying State, just imagine how safe the Data of South-Tyroleans is, italians northest province!
Are Italians discriminatory toward South-Tyroleans? Do they consider them Austrian and not Italian or something? Don't know the lore.
actually it's the opposite, or at least some of them don't consider themselves Italians.
There are Italians in South Tyrol, mostly in Meran and Bozen, which were given property and tax cuts by Mussolini to coloninse the Land. Many South Tyroleans were killed and their property stolen. The Italians still vote far right parties even after 80 years.
In Bozen you can still hear many say:"Speak italian, you are in Italy and South Tyrol is Italy."
which de jure its true, de facto not.
It kinda depends on how right wing you are afaik. There are German south tyroleans and Italian south tyroleans. I think the Italians were traditionally more left wing afaik. Tyroleans in general are weird as fuck and think they’re gods gift to humanity they will be dicks to other Austrians. There is is a tyrolean saying that if you’re not tyrolean you’re not human. Anyways Andreas Hofer is the man and reject vaccinations because they’re trying to infuse you with Bavarian ethics
If any one is tyrolean correct me if I’m wrong please
No
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This software is a fucking scourge on the world. We need to switch back to the original cell phones where only one person can use the tower at a time.
The original cell phones were unencrypted and anyone nearby with a receiver could listen in on your call, no?
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