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[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 55 points 5 days ago (4 children)

This is another step in Project 2025

Provoke outrage with the mass deportations, then use that outrage to justify marshal law and deploying the military.

[–] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 46 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The biggest national security threats are Trump, the Heritage Foundation, MAGA, and Musk

[–] Buske@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Not only to the nation, The entire world, Humanity, literally anything that is alive.

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[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 41 points 5 days ago

The government is at war with the Constitution and the rule of law.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 129 points 6 days ago (6 children)

So the trump administration is fully admitting that the insurrection attempting to block the certification of the Presidential election 2021 on Jan 6 was open rebellion?

[–] AngrySquirrel@lemm.ee 49 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Holly shit. I hadn't seen that last image you posted before. I didn't realize the Jan 6 insurrectionist brought flexcuffs. That is quite disturbing. Who the fuck were they planing to kidnap or take hostage with those flexcuffs?

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 42 points 6 days ago

Nancy Pelosi, AOC, Mike Pence, and really anyone who they deemed to have offended their god-emperor and who happened to still be in the building.

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 38 points 6 days ago

They were probably associated with the ones that built the gallows outside on the lawn. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jan-6-gallows-construction-new-video/

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[–] CatDogL0ver@lemmy.world 38 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I know this is sarcasm but, sadly, they don't. I have talked to a few of them. Some either say it is patriot8c and others said it didn't happen.

You can't win

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[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 39 points 6 days ago (2 children)

They admit no such thing.

“Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” - Frank Wilhoit (not the political scientist who passed away in 2010, a younger one who is alive still).

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[–] oyo@lemmy.zip 23 points 5 days ago (1 children)
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[–] BMW_stick@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Governor Newsome should release a statement that he and his cabinet will be discussing the effects of a possible change in State structure. If the world's 4th largest economy were to secede from the Union, frumpy would be screwed.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

Texas will be so pissed. They're threatening to do it for centuries but can't pull it off.

[–] dellish@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Just wondering: if California just stopped paying federal taxes would the net effect be the same? That way they haven't gone through the process of seceding, but at the same time they are refusing to entirely be part of the union.

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[–] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 25 points 5 days ago

Trump is the only traitor in this picture.

[–] Hylactor@sopuli.xyz 65 points 6 days ago

The country was in peril; he was jeopardizing his traditional rights of freedom and independence by daring to exercise them.

  • Catch-22, Joseph Heller
[–] itisileclerk@lemmy.world 76 points 6 days ago (5 children)

ELI5, If Republicans in general don't want federal control, they want de-regulation, then why they are supporting federal control of California?

[–] Wolf@lemmy.today 75 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They are only against federal control when it's them who are being controlled. They are fine with it happening to other people. It's how they can claim to be pro freedom out of one side of their mouth and anti-freedom with the other. Laws for thee, none for me.

[–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago

This is extremely important to understand. As fun as it is, we really need to move away from the gotchas. The right wing are not consistent because they do not have an ideology. They are simply reactionary.

[–] propitiouspanda@lemmy.cafe 60 points 6 days ago

They want to use the government to attack their enemies.

Like a switch, as soon as a Democrat is in office they will all be lying about wanting "small government."

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 35 points 6 days ago

They're lying about that first part

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Because the Republican Party of smaller government and lower taxes no longer exists. Now we have the MAGA Nazis, who are for lower taxes on the wealthy, higher taxes on the poor/working class, and an much larger, extremely oppressive authoritarian police state. California has a lot of money, and a lot of foreigners, and MAGA wants to control it all.

As far as deregulation goes, that will go to the corporations that pay for it. Corps that play ball will get deregulation, corps that don't play ball, will have their regulations tightened.

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[–] pleasegoaway@lemm.ee 19 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Using military on your own citizens… hmmm where have I heard about this before?

[–] Asswardbackaddict@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

Oh. Last term. Immediately. He deployed the national guard on pipeline protesters, remember?

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[–] MisterOwl@lemmy.world 60 points 6 days ago

Here we go. Buckle up and arm yourselves.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 19 points 5 days ago

So they fucking should be.

[–] Puddinghelmet@lemmy.world 66 points 6 days ago (4 children)
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[–] Cocopanda@lemmy.world 44 points 6 days ago (12 children)

Sounds like bro wants to start the plot to the movie civil war.

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[–] vala@lemmy.world 53 points 6 days ago (6 children)

Can California please just withhold taxes already and put this country out of its misery?

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[–] lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 55 points 6 days ago

Isn't this the same as saying *the government is working against the will of it's populace"

[–] Thteven@lemmy.world 35 points 6 days ago

You know what? Yeah. GFY trump.

[–] wowwoweowza@lemmy.world 43 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Right to freedoms of assembly and expression.

They need to chill.

And listen.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 30 points 6 days ago (1 children)

"Why won't these fascists just chill and talk things out?!?!!?"

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[–] bieren@lemmy.zip 12 points 5 days ago

According to trump anyone that uses more than 0% of their brain and anything about a 3 letter word is in rebellion of him.

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 36 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The Confederacy was in a state of rebellion too. He's equated standing up to ICE, which is seemingly similar to when the Bostonians stood up to and were massacred by the British, with the Confederate's bombing of Ft. Sumter.

[–] choco_crispies@lemmy.ml 34 points 6 days ago (1 children)
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[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 12 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

They should be. Meanwhile, the governor, while criticizing Trump, was still whitewashing him when he said he would be willing to work with him. That's the thing, fascist dictators will fabricate if they are not able to force a situation, and sometimes that's to handle the situation before it ever gets a chance to materialize. Look at Erdogan and the failed 2016 military coup that basically disarmed any further attempts against him. Trump wants to prevent and punish rebellion because he knows that where he is going to bring the United States is going to instill a lot of it.

States do need to secede, the US is no longer operating within the constitution, it is their only out, and Trump is going to do everything to prevent it. The problem is, a lot of states should be coordinating together on this and falling back to Articles of Confederation between them to retain their autonomy and prevent the subverted military agencies from invading them. It really requires a mindset to resist forcefully if necessary while people are still getting brainwashed through their social network bubbles and the militarized occupation forces are already present. The constitution is no longer in effect, all branches of government are now irrevocably corrupt, and Trump is crowning himself not as a modern king but as the type of king the thirteen colonies rebelled against.

[–] conicalscientist@lemmy.world 40 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

So is the red line crossed yet or is the goal post once again some indeterminate point in the future.

History won't tell the beginning of the Trump regime at that indeterminate point. It began when he rode down that piss yellow escalator.

[–] massacre@lemmy.world 26 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

" In addition, the Secretary of Defense may employ any other members of the regular Armed Forces as necessary to augment and support the protection of Federal functions and property in any number determined appropriate in his discretion." 100% illegal according to Posse Comitatus Act.

Deploying Marines, Space Force, Navy Army or Airforce in the US against the US is prohibited

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 24 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Minor nitpick: national guard soldiers under title 32 is totally fine (the George Floyd protests), however that requires the state governor's approval. Trump bypassed that by putting them on title 10 orders which is active duty. Those are typically only for training or overseas deployment, and not for actual deployment within the US (though I think the south border mission may be an exception).

So, he's already violating the law, but also putting provisions to use active duty soldiers as well which is double against the law.

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[–] TheBeege@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

In addition, the Secretary of Defense may employ any other members of the regular Armed Forces as necessary to augment and support the protection of Federal functions and property in any number determined appropriate in his discretion.

As I understand, this is not a thing the regular Armed Forces can do, correct? I thought that only the National Guard could conduct non-training operations on US soil and/or against US citizens, barring an invasion or secession. Does anyone know more than me about this?

[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

Yes. Out of the federal military branches, only the coast guard can: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act

[–] Octagon9561@lemmy.ml 18 points 6 days ago

As everyone should be.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago

Is there a good argument for why any society not in collapse should submit to any "higher" authority?

[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

STaTeS rIgHtS

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