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[–] TheBeege@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

In addition, the Secretary of Defense may employ any other members of the regular Armed Forces as necessary to augment and support the protection of Federal functions and property in any number determined appropriate in his discretion.

As I understand, this is not a thing the regular Armed Forces can do, correct? I thought that only the National Guard could conduct non-training operations on US soil and/or against US citizens, barring an invasion or secession. Does anyone know more than me about this?

[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 2 points 43 minutes ago

Yes. Out of the federal military branches, only the coast guard can: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act

[–] BMW_stick@lemmy.world 19 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Governor Newsome should release a statement that he and his cabinet will be discussing the effects of a possible change in State structure. If the world's 4th largest economy were to secede from the Union, frumpy would be screwed.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 4 points 40 minutes ago

Texas will be so pissed. They're threatening to do it for centuries but can't pull it off.

[–] dellish@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Just wondering: if California just stopped paying federal taxes would the net effect be the same? That way they haven't gone through the process of seceding, but at the same time they are refusing to entirely be part of the union.

[–] Nunar@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

If California stopped paying taxes, most of the south would be screwed.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago

Also, it was the conservatives who helped weaken unions by making dues optional but forcing the union to represent non-payers anyways. Sounds perfect here. California can just stop paying, but get the protection and benefits of a tax paying state.

Plus, conservatives would absolutely fucking love this if it was Texas threatening not to pay taxes if their money goes to doctors who preform abortions or some other equally absurd shit.

Since we have allowed the Presidency to become a joke why not our whole nation. /S

[–] oyo@lemmy.zip 19 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Wilco@lemm.ee 1 points 13 minutes ago

Heh. One picture says what's on most every reasonable Americans mind.

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 5 points 7 hours ago

Noem tried to peddle habeas corpus, a legal principle with centuries of legal tradition, as Trump's right to do whatever he wants. Of course they would sell what's going on in LA as whatever fits their agenda.

[–] bieren@lemmy.zip 12 points 9 hours ago

According to trump anyone that uses more than 0% of their brain and anything about a 3 letter word is in rebellion of him.

[–] StalleDrang@lemmy.world -5 points 3 hours ago

Too bad it's a fact

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 51 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

This is another step in Project 2025

Provoke outrage with the mass deportations, then use that outrage to justify marshal law and deploying the military.

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

I’ve been talking about this for a decade now and a lot of people accused me of being a conspiracy theorist.

Time is a flat circle that only consists of about 100 years. Those who don’t learn from history are doomed to repeat it (or rhyme, whatever) and those that do learn from history are doomed to watch everyone else repeat it.

[–] insaneinthemembrane@lemmy.world 17 points 13 hours ago (4 children)
[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 6 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

I don't care, I am tired of fighting my autocorrect on every 3rd word.

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 1 points 26 minutes ago

It’s so bad now. I just need it to spell check, but it inserts bad grammar all the time

[–] insaneinthemembrane@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago

Fair enough 😀

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[–] wavebeam@lemmy.world 10 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] MoogleMaestro@lemmy.zip 4 points 9 hours ago

Damn, Marshall law is on trump's side now?

What are we doing, folks?

[–] pleasegoaway@lemm.ee 18 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Using military on your own citizens… hmmm where have I heard about this before?

[–] Asswardbackaddict@lemmy.world 8 points 8 hours ago

Oh. Last term. Immediately. He deployed the national guard on pipeline protesters, remember?

🇨🇳 Tiananem 2

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 13 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

They should be. Meanwhile, the governor, while criticizing Trump, was still whitewashing him when he said he would be willing to work with him. That's the thing, fascist dictators will fabricate if they are not able to force a situation, and sometimes that's to handle the situation before it ever gets a chance to materialize. Look at Erdogan and the failed 2016 military coup that basically disarmed any further attempts against him. Trump wants to prevent and punish rebellion because he knows that where he is going to bring the United States is going to instill a lot of it.

States do need to secede, the US is no longer operating within the constitution, it is their only out, and Trump is going to do everything to prevent it. The problem is, a lot of states should be coordinating together on this and falling back to Articles of Confederation between them to retain their autonomy and prevent the subverted military agencies from invading them. It really requires a mindset to resist forcefully if necessary while people are still getting brainwashed through their social network bubbles and the militarized occupation forces are already present. The constitution is no longer in effect, all branches of government are now irrevocably corrupt, and Trump is crowning himself not as a modern king but as the type of king the thirteen colonies rebelled against.

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 38 points 15 hours ago

The government is at war with the Constitution and the rule of law.

[–] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 23 points 14 hours ago

Trump is the only traitor in this picture.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 19 points 13 hours ago

So they fucking should be.

[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 8 points 11 hours ago

STaTeS rIgHtS

[–] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 43 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

The biggest national security threats are Trump, the Heritage Foundation, MAGA, and Musk

[–] Buske@lemmy.world 18 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

Not only to the nation, The entire world, Humanity, literally anything that is alive.

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