Political Memes

Just gonna link this tired old post over here

YSK: Non-violent protests are 2x more likely to succeed and no non-violent movement that has involved more than 3.5% of a population has ever failed

I love these posts. Americans couldn't even be bothered to get off their asses and vote, but you expect them to coordinate a violent revolution against a goverent backed by the most powerful military the world has ever seen and a surveillance state with access to just about every movement and thought just about everyone has had for the last 10 years or so.

Good luck, hopefully you don't get hit by a hellfire missile with swords strapped to it while you're sitting on your porch that was fired from a reaper drone 50 miles away.

Neat, a meme!

ok im sick of this bullshit.

i swear many people on lemmy seem to think only one way or another. no middle ground anymore.

There is a place for violent and non-vioent protest, and they can coexist. In fact they SHOULD coexist. Those engaged in violent protest however, should not be protesting openly in my opinion, and they should not be protesting in public, the forms of violent protest i think of is more assassination. Getting rid of maga cultists and maga cultist politicians that enable them. However i do not think assassination in terms of guns or bombs. i think poisons, viruses, fucking with maga cultist's houses to make them less safe in a more invisible way (creating a gas leak or electrical issue). The reason i think this is that it is harder for these moron cultists to combat, most of them do not understand more subtle violence, yes i know this is fucked up. And i REALLY hope it's not neccessary, but i feel we (america) and really most countries have a difficult time figuring out when actual guerilla warfare becomes neccessary.

Personally i would think of anyone who does such things to be about the same as luigi mangione who was obviously wrongfully imprisoned and thankfully there are others out there doing the real work. Also such things probably won't be put in the media anymore, they will hide it because luigi mangione galvanized a lot of people, they don't want martyrs, martyrs galvanize us all into resistance.

I am not saying you should do this. I am saying that there is room for both and for some reason both sides of this same fight are against eachother. Another way to do it would be to have backup protestors nearby in gear IN CASE things DO get violent. I think both of these are viable for "violent protest" the violent protesters in the latter case are backup for the peaceful protestors since if you dont have a weapon or any intention of committing violence on your oppressors then you will need someone else who is very willing to do so, and in my opinion, someone who enjoys it.

As "givessomefucks" said "We don’t have to like it, but it’s undeniable that cops treat protestors in plated vests with rifles different than they treat protestors in tshirts with signs…"

but this is why violent protest should be done subtly and NOT in large numbers, your goal as a "violent protestor" is more to support the peaceful protestors WITHOUT compromising their own goals of peaceful protest. So these two methods seem the most viable to me. They are right, you cant go into the protest with weapons and gear, that's why you need to be a LOT more subtle than this.

If things spill over and peaceful protests stop working then yes, violent protest might become the only real option in public. until then do NOT compromise peaceful protestors.

An interesting take on warlordism

It’s amazing that so many people on Lemmy think so much about politics yet have such a poor understanding of how it actually works. I blame the education system. And memes like this one.

Liberals: Just one more protest! That will shoe 'em! Time for a 'revolution' !

Aaahh, yes. Yet another call for civil war, mass murder and violence. Good times.